1 00:00:21,710 --> 00:00:10,620 [Music] 2 00:00:28,580 --> 00:00:24,960 you're in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:35,220 --> 00:00:28,590 standard of paranormal radio and now 4 00:00:37,860 --> 00:00:35,230 here's gene Steinberg with gene and 5 00:00:40,229 --> 00:00:37,870 Chris and the para cast and this is 6 00:00:42,329 --> 00:00:40,239 gonna be the episode that you can dream 7 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:42,339 about because it's not going to be about 8 00:00:46,619 --> 00:00:44,530 UFOs it's not going to be about Bigfoot 9 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:46,629 it's not going to be about ancient 10 00:00:52,979 --> 00:00:50,110 mysteries or Nazi UFOs we're gonna focus 11 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:52,989 more on your dreams or maybe dreams from 12 00:00:57,750 --> 00:00:55,330 the afterlife later on right now it's 13 00:01:00,030 --> 00:00:57,760 just kind of look at the fallout to last 14 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:00,040 week's appearance from dr. Joseph 15 00:01:04,020 --> 00:01:03,280 Ferrell predictably Chris I guess you'd 16 00:01:06,359 --> 00:01:04,030 agree with me 17 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:06,369 the response was all over the place some 18 00:01:13,289 --> 00:01:08,710 people just loved listening to this guy 19 00:01:15,270 --> 00:01:13,299 I do one listener suggested gee couldn't 20 00:01:17,550 --> 00:01:15,280 we have added another hour to to this 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:17,560 episode he's so much fun to listen to 22 00:01:24,180 --> 00:01:20,650 but other listeners have problems with 23 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:24,190 his science suggesting that maybe his 24 00:01:31,050 --> 00:01:27,040 grasp of science leaves a little bit to 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:31,060 be desired well you know it's really 26 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:34,570 difficult to look at years and years of 27 00:01:41,730 --> 00:01:38,560 research simply based on a you know 28 00:01:43,649 --> 00:01:41,740 through our radio program I think anyone 29 00:01:47,550 --> 00:01:43,659 who was interested in the topics that we 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:47,560 covered with dr. ferral would probably 31 00:01:54,300 --> 00:01:50,770 best be served by reading his books I 32 00:01:55,860 --> 00:01:54,310 think it's very difficult to lick the 33 00:01:58,140 --> 00:01:55,870 tip of the iceberg of such a massive 34 00:02:02,490 --> 00:01:58,150 amount of research that he's done over 35 00:02:04,859 --> 00:02:02,500 the years and he has a very very steep 36 00:02:06,780 --> 00:02:04,869 mind when it comes to weaving threads of 37 00:02:09,509 --> 00:02:06,790 research together and coming up with 38 00:02:11,580 --> 00:02:09,519 what if scenarios and you know he's very 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:11,590 as he mentioned several times during the 40 00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:15,730 show gene he is very careful to state 41 00:02:21,449 --> 00:02:19,360 when he's speculating as opposed to you 42 00:02:23,729 --> 00:02:21,459 know presenting information that may be 43 00:02:27,589 --> 00:02:23,739 half-baked and some of our listeners 44 00:02:31,290 --> 00:02:27,599 minds as reality and as as fact so 45 00:02:31,650 --> 00:02:31,300 having read most of his books I have a 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:31,660 much 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:33,610 got a grasp I think of this subject 48 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:35,530 matter than the average listener out 49 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:37,450 there would and I do I do 50 00:02:41,220 --> 00:02:38,800 urge everyone if they're interested in 51 00:02:43,110 --> 00:02:41,230 these topics to to visit his research he 52 00:02:45,630 --> 00:02:43,120 is one of the top researchers that we 53 00:02:49,050 --> 00:02:45,640 have in the field and it's not by 54 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:49,060 accident that he has degrees from Oxford 55 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:51,370 University I mean that that fact alone 56 00:02:55,380 --> 00:02:53,530 should give him at least a little bit of 57 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:55,390 credibility in the minds of some of our 58 00:03:01,260 --> 00:02:58,000 more skeptical listeners and remember he 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:01,270 uses the term heightened speculation so 60 00:03:05,790 --> 00:03:03,010 he's taking a bunch of possibilities a 61 00:03:08,580 --> 00:03:05,800 lot of evidence is saying what if it was 62 00:03:10,950 --> 00:03:08,590 this what if it was that obviously he 63 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:10,960 can't sit here one guy and prove 64 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:14,080 everything or even much of anything but 65 00:03:19,290 --> 00:03:16,510 he's sitting there to get you to think 66 00:03:23,580 --> 00:03:19,300 about possibilities possibilities that 67 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:23,590 to him are realistic yeah it's you put 68 00:03:27,570 --> 00:03:25,210 enough ducks together in a group and if 69 00:03:31,550 --> 00:03:27,580 they start quacking it's uh it's kind of 70 00:03:34,130 --> 00:03:31,560 hard to determine that they're uh swans 71 00:03:38,460 --> 00:03:34,140 God watch how about them swans 72 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:38,470 but me at the point being that yes if he 73 00:03:44,220 --> 00:03:41,110 makes a scientific error or some of his 74 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:44,230 scientific logic is questionable point 75 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:47,290 it out he's aware of our forums he's 76 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:48,730 aware of the show and he's aware of the 77 00:03:54,050 --> 00:03:51,610 criticisms and I'm sure in due time if 78 00:03:56,850 --> 00:03:54,060 he feels the need to respond he will 79 00:03:58,949 --> 00:03:56,860 know well you can't argue with his 80 00:04:00,720 --> 00:03:58,959 output I mean the guy must sit there you 81 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:00,730 know 18 hours a day researching and 82 00:04:05,430 --> 00:04:03,670 writing he's incredibly prolific almost 83 00:04:07,500 --> 00:04:05,440 to the Nick Redfern level 84 00:04:09,150 --> 00:04:07,510 I mean he's come out in ten ten years 85 00:04:11,580 --> 00:04:09,160 he's come out with you know at least a 86 00:04:13,949 --> 00:04:11,590 book and a half a year and that shows me 87 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:13,959 a real dedication to the subject matter 88 00:04:20,610 --> 00:04:18,070 and a real drive to find out the truth 89 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:20,620 and I think we need more Joseph 90 00:04:26,190 --> 00:04:22,800 Farrell's out there doing the work doing 91 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:26,200 the research and presenting what they 92 00:04:32,460 --> 00:04:29,440 found in a a very systematic and cogent 93 00:04:34,290 --> 00:04:32,470 way I really my hats off to him I really 94 00:04:37,340 --> 00:04:34,300 do enjoy reading his books I don't agree 95 00:04:39,810 --> 00:04:37,350 with everything that he postulates or 96 00:04:41,820 --> 00:04:39,820 some of his heightened speculation maybe 97 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:41,830 a little bit too over the top for my 98 00:04:45,330 --> 00:04:44,710 taste but the information regarding the 99 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:45,340 bank 100 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:48,610 systems the funding potential funding of 101 00:04:52,290 --> 00:04:49,810 black projects where some of this 102 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:52,300 technology ended up I mean that's all 103 00:04:59,400 --> 00:04:56,410 very fascinating stuff for me at least I 104 00:05:02,310 --> 00:04:59,410 can't speak for Eugene but it's I really 105 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:02,320 enjoy I enjoy going through his work and 106 00:05:07,290 --> 00:05:04,449 and I think one book that we didn't talk 107 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:07,300 about that his really good is the cosmic 108 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:10,570 war which takes Sitchin to way to the 109 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:13,090 next level in his it makes much more 110 00:05:20,670 --> 00:05:16,570 sense than these more simplistic version 111 00:05:23,159 --> 00:05:20,680 of ancient historical references to gods 112 00:05:26,010 --> 00:05:23,169 and in potentially our planet 113 00:05:29,159 --> 00:05:26,020 intelligences his take on it as much I 114 00:05:32,420 --> 00:05:29,169 think more grounded in and what we know 115 00:05:35,219 --> 00:05:32,430 of the historic record as opposed to 116 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:35,229 reinterpreting to to form words to mean 117 00:05:40,260 --> 00:05:37,600 something other than accepted academia 118 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:40,270 would would suggest so that's a good one 119 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:41,710 to put on your reading list listeners 120 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:44,320 the cosmic war by dr. Joseph Ferrell 121 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:46,690 maybe will set aside how discussion for 122 00:05:49,980 --> 00:05:48,610 it because I could see the interest is 123 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:49,990 there I mean we were loaded up with 124 00:05:55,170 --> 00:05:53,410 questions early on and I expect that 125 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:55,180 next time he's here and he's gonna be 126 00:05:59,129 --> 00:05:57,370 here again in the near future we're 127 00:06:01,980 --> 00:05:59,139 gonna have more now speaking of the near 128 00:06:04,290 --> 00:06:01,990 future once your friend David Perkins 129 00:06:06,779 --> 00:06:04,300 gets back and ready we're gonna put you 130 00:06:09,210 --> 00:06:06,789 two together in a little room a little 131 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:09,220 virtual room to talk about stalking the 132 00:06:12,540 --> 00:06:11,889 herd oh I can't wait boy it's gonna be 133 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:12,550 fun 134 00:06:17,610 --> 00:06:15,910 David Perkins and I over the past 17 18 135 00:06:20,159 --> 00:06:17,620 months have spent hundreds and hundreds 136 00:06:23,070 --> 00:06:20,169 of hours on the phone going over the 137 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:23,080 finer detailed points of the cow 138 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:25,289 mutilation historical record and 139 00:06:30,420 --> 00:06:28,090 possible theories about how certain 140 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:30,430 memes within that particular realm arose 141 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:33,520 and he doesn't do radio shows he is 142 00:06:38,219 --> 00:06:35,289 agreed to do the pair of cast and I'm 143 00:06:39,750 --> 00:06:38,229 really excited about it in he's a 144 00:06:42,020 --> 00:06:39,760 brilliant guy you know he's got a 145 00:06:45,930 --> 00:06:42,030 master's political science from Yale 146 00:06:47,879 --> 00:06:45,940 extremely well-spoken one of the best 147 00:06:50,219 --> 00:06:47,889 writers if not the best writer that I 148 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:50,229 know the guy is incredibly talented and 149 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:53,530 his creative mind and his insight is 150 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:55,840 head and shoulders above most people in 151 00:07:00,940 --> 00:06:58,250 the field including yours truly 152 00:07:02,350 --> 00:07:00,950 it's gonna be a lot of fun yep that's 153 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:02,360 gonna be coming up in the next couple of 154 00:07:07,030 --> 00:07:04,400 weeks or so we'll be hearing from Chris 155 00:07:08,590 --> 00:07:07,040 O'Brien and David Perkins and I think 156 00:07:09,190 --> 00:07:08,600 the first question I'll ask Chris when 157 00:07:11,950 --> 00:07:09,200 we do that 158 00:07:13,540 --> 00:07:11,960 episodes locking the herd after all this 159 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:13,550 research and when you started putting 160 00:07:19,090 --> 00:07:16,400 the book together what surprised you 161 00:07:21,610 --> 00:07:19,100 what developments came out of it that 162 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:21,620 you just didn't expect let's hold that 163 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:24,290 question for later on okay okay start 164 00:07:28,750 --> 00:07:26,930 thinking about it all right and you know 165 00:07:32,950 --> 00:07:28,760 if you have three or four answers that's 166 00:07:35,050 --> 00:07:32,960 okay do I do you know and also see how 167 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:35,060 your views change from beginning the 168 00:07:39,850 --> 00:07:37,850 research to where it is now to where it 169 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:39,860 seems to be going we'll have to see now 170 00:07:48,610 --> 00:07:44,570 today is a show you can dream about in 171 00:07:51,010 --> 00:07:48,620 your dreams something like that I'm 172 00:07:54,010 --> 00:07:51,020 gonna ask rosemary ellen guiley when she 173 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:54,020 comes on our next segment about dreams 174 00:07:59,350 --> 00:07:56,960 from the afterlife in the sense that 175 00:08:03,330 --> 00:07:59,360 I've had dreams occasionally about my 176 00:08:08,290 --> 00:08:03,340 late father and my late brother but not 177 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:08,300 my mother isn't that weird hmm and the 178 00:08:13,390 --> 00:08:10,970 question is how do I know that my 179 00:08:14,770 --> 00:08:13,400 brother wherever he is and I'm not going 180 00:08:16,990 --> 00:08:14,780 to assume he's up there he did some 181 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:17,000 wacky things in his life whether he 182 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:18,890 really cares about getting in touch with 183 00:08:25,630 --> 00:08:22,630 me or it's just my memories of him and 184 00:08:29,470 --> 00:08:25,640 also about my father what's your 185 00:08:32,650 --> 00:08:29,480 perception 'thus well I've I've always 186 00:08:36,219 --> 00:08:32,660 been very interested in the dreamscape 187 00:08:40,029 --> 00:08:36,229 as it were I've had a quite a number of 188 00:08:42,690 --> 00:08:40,039 fairly amazing dreams where I've even 189 00:08:45,550 --> 00:08:42,700 had dreams of lying in bed dreaming and 190 00:08:47,830 --> 00:08:45,560 waking up from one dream and back into 191 00:08:49,870 --> 00:08:47,840 the first dream kind of reminds me of 192 00:08:53,170 --> 00:08:49,880 that movie that was out a couple years 193 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:53,180 ago Inception which goes dream within a 194 00:08:58,780 --> 00:08:55,670 dream within a dream it's a fascinating 195 00:09:00,190 --> 00:08:58,790 topic I think a lot of people have had 196 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:00,200 dreams that they can't quite figure out 197 00:09:05,980 --> 00:09:03,530 and would always wonder be their life 198 00:09:08,290 --> 00:09:05,990 what that actually meant the the 199 00:09:09,820 --> 00:09:08,300 important dream stick with you and I 200 00:09:11,660 --> 00:09:09,830 think rosemary be a perfect person to 201 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:11,670 talk about all this stuff 202 00:09:16,940 --> 00:09:13,200 this is the kind of stuff she looks into 203 00:09:20,150 --> 00:09:16,950 the stuff that science doesn't pay a lot 204 00:09:22,610 --> 00:09:20,160 of attention to but we are all troubled 205 00:09:24,590 --> 00:09:22,620 by dreams and we wanna know if they mean 206 00:09:27,530 --> 00:09:24,600 anything or if it's just our 207 00:09:30,830 --> 00:09:27,540 subconscious playing tricks with us 208 00:09:33,130 --> 00:09:30,840 trying to send us a message or someone 209 00:09:35,780 --> 00:09:33,140 else sending us a message listen to this 210 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:35,790 but it's not who you think it is they're 211 00:09:42,260 --> 00:09:38,910 only using you our dead relatives as a 212 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:42,270 mechanism to convey some sort of 213 00:09:45,410 --> 00:09:43,770 information or maybe it's racial 214 00:09:47,060 --> 00:09:45,420 consciousness I summarized a lot of 215 00:09:48,980 --> 00:09:47,070 things here they probably have nothing 216 00:09:51,380 --> 00:09:48,990 to do with her book but there you go 217 00:09:53,030 --> 00:09:51,390 rosemary ellen guiley coming up next 218 00:10:00,140 --> 00:09:53,040 with Gina and Chris 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00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:12,839 that's news at the para cast calm and 304 00:14:18,019 --> 00:14:14,850 don't forget to visit our famous para 305 00:14:22,970 --> 00:14:18,029 cast community forums at forum dot the 306 00:14:26,329 --> 00:14:22,980 para cast calm returning to the para 307 00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:26,339 cast is rosemary ellen guiley who has 308 00:14:29,389 --> 00:14:28,079 written some fascinating books about a 309 00:14:32,030 --> 00:14:29,399 number of subjects we've talked about 310 00:14:34,670 --> 00:14:32,040 the jinn and other mysteries possibly 311 00:14:37,790 --> 00:14:34,680 psychic and now rosemary you've got a 312 00:14:40,340 --> 00:14:37,800 book covering dreams from the afterlife 313 00:14:43,639 --> 00:14:40,350 and let me ask you here how do we 314 00:14:45,650 --> 00:14:43,649 separate that from just dreams there are 315 00:14:48,199 --> 00:14:45,660 certain characteristics that seem to 316 00:14:50,660 --> 00:14:48,209 distinguish these kinds of dreams which 317 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:50,670 have been considered to be real 318 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:53,310 experiences since ancient times and 319 00:14:59,380 --> 00:14:56,370 there are no hard and fast rules these 320 00:15:03,380 --> 00:14:59,390 are subjective experiences but they do 321 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:03,390 share common patterns and the dream 322 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:06,000 visitations are perceived as real 323 00:15:11,780 --> 00:15:08,970 experiences by the dreamer in fact quite 324 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:11,790 often people are confused after they 325 00:15:15,079 --> 00:15:13,290 wake up as to whether or not they had a 326 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:15,089 dream or they were in some other 327 00:15:20,090 --> 00:15:16,890 alternate reality having a real 328 00:15:22,730 --> 00:15:20,100 experience they often have lucidity to 329 00:15:25,850 --> 00:15:22,740 them as people often know that they're 330 00:15:27,530 --> 00:15:25,860 having some unusual kind of experience 331 00:15:30,290 --> 00:15:27,540 while they're dreaming but it still 332 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:30,300 seems to them to be real there are 333 00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:33,930 tangible sensory phenomena like the 334 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:37,199 ability to have tactile sensations to 335 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:39,930 touch people who are dead to touch other 336 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:43,290 objects they hear the voices of the dead 337 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:44,970 even though those are more 338 00:15:51,319 --> 00:15:47,970 mental telepathy transmissions than 339 00:15:54,650 --> 00:15:51,329 actual voices coming out of a mouth they 340 00:15:57,259 --> 00:15:54,660 are often in some between place like 341 00:16:00,079 --> 00:15:57,269 they feel transported to some sort of 342 00:16:01,819 --> 00:16:00,089 bridge location that is between the 343 00:16:05,179 --> 00:16:01,829 world of the living and the world of the 344 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:05,189 dead the dreams are all meaningful they 345 00:16:11,290 --> 00:16:07,980 have something of great importance to be 346 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:11,300 imparted to the living that in turn 347 00:16:18,740 --> 00:16:15,889 often helps them overcome their grief 348 00:16:20,990 --> 00:16:18,750 reinforces belief in the afterlife and 349 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:21,000 sometimes solve some problems and 350 00:16:25,369 --> 00:16:23,610 questions that are the living are still 351 00:16:27,769 --> 00:16:25,379 wrangling with concerning the dead like 352 00:16:30,350 --> 00:16:27,779 missing documents for the estate and 353 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:30,360 things like that there are often other 354 00:16:37,009 --> 00:16:33,569 hallmarks like brilliant light intense 355 00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:37,019 colors a supercharged atmosphere and 356 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:39,360 while none of these characteristics can 357 00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:41,730 prove that this is a real experience 358 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:44,160 they all seem to be a constellation of 359 00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:47,730 characteristics that are reported time 360 00:16:53,420 --> 00:16:50,519 and again over history by people have 361 00:16:55,340 --> 00:16:53,430 had these experiences let me ask you the 362 00:16:58,670 --> 00:16:55,350 very silly question here to get started 363 00:17:01,699 --> 00:16:58,680 and that is how do we know any of this 364 00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:01,709 comes from people in the afterlife and 365 00:17:06,529 --> 00:17:04,049 that doesn't have another cause and I 366 00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:06,539 was suggesting here that maybe something 367 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:08,400 or someone wants to get a message to us 368 00:17:13,579 --> 00:17:11,490 but to make it acceptable it manifests 369 00:17:16,939 --> 00:17:13,589 itself in the form of some departed 370 00:17:19,010 --> 00:17:16,949 relative by someone getting a message to 371 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:19,020 us he mean like another living person or 372 00:17:22,779 --> 00:17:21,209 someone on the other side I would know 373 00:17:26,090 --> 00:17:22,789 what side they're on 374 00:17:27,679 --> 00:17:26,100 well the impetus for these experiences 375 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:27,689 does seem to come more from the other 376 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:30,450 side than from the from the living 377 00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:32,970 although the living can can certainly 378 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:34,799 ask for it we ask for it when we pine 379 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:37,289 away for someone who's died we want that 380 00:17:42,770 --> 00:17:40,470 final meeting with them we want to say 381 00:17:44,899 --> 00:17:42,780 things we didn't get to say so there 382 00:17:47,870 --> 00:17:44,909 there is a calling out from our side 383 00:17:51,020 --> 00:17:47,880 that I think can facilitate these sorts 384 00:17:54,620 --> 00:17:51,030 of experiences but well when the dead 385 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:54,630 comment on their ability to have a 386 00:17:58,220 --> 00:17:57,450 reunion with the living they make the 387 00:18:00,680 --> 00:17:58,230 same kinds of 388 00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:00,690 comments it was very difficult to do 389 00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:02,700 this there are limited windows of 390 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:05,940 opportunity time is always short they 391 00:18:10,460 --> 00:18:08,640 can't stay very long and they have to go 392 00:18:13,370 --> 00:18:10,470 back to where they came from and the 393 00:18:15,620 --> 00:18:13,380 living cannot go with them so there 394 00:18:18,530 --> 00:18:15,630 seems to be some sort of mechanism that 395 00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:18,540 is required for these dreams to happen 396 00:18:23,659 --> 00:18:20,640 and it's not an even playing field 397 00:18:26,810 --> 00:18:23,669 because simply wanting the experience 398 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:26,820 will not guarantee having the experience 399 00:18:33,020 --> 00:18:29,010 and it doesn't seem to have anything to 400 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:33,030 do with worthiness love abandonment any 401 00:18:38,419 --> 00:18:35,250 of those other issues it could very well 402 00:18:41,030 --> 00:18:38,429 have to do with some transmission of 403 00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:41,040 subtle energy that requires the right 404 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:44,160 receptivity on our end and the ability 405 00:18:50,539 --> 00:18:47,760 to to penetrate this barrier on the part 406 00:18:51,860 --> 00:18:50,549 of the dead now complicating that we 407 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:51,870 also don't know what the dead do 408 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:53,610 immediately after they get into the 409 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:54,410 afterlife 410 00:18:59,419 --> 00:18:57,450 whether they have the cognition and the 411 00:19:02,120 --> 00:18:59,429 energy to make this sort of contact 412 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:02,130 whether they go into a stasis period or 413 00:19:07,310 --> 00:19:05,490 a rest period and how accessible they 414 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:07,320 are to the world of the living so there 415 00:19:13,250 --> 00:19:10,370 are a whole host of unknown factors that 416 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:13,260 we don't fully understand and the right 417 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:16,110 combination of them seems to have to 418 00:19:19,850 --> 00:19:17,610 come together in order for the 419 00:19:23,210 --> 00:19:19,860 experience to take place and yet it's 420 00:19:26,450 --> 00:19:23,220 quite common a lot of people have this 421 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:26,460 experience and a lot of times they don't 422 00:19:30,620 --> 00:19:28,410 talk about it because sometimes the 423 00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:30,630 therapist has told them that's just 424 00:19:35,060 --> 00:19:33,390 wishful film and forget about it or 425 00:19:37,730 --> 00:19:35,070 they're afraid that other people are 426 00:19:42,049 --> 00:19:37,740 going to think they might be kind of 427 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:42,059 crazy yeah having a real meeting with 428 00:19:48,289 --> 00:19:45,690 the dead even in dreams rosemary how do 429 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:48,299 we separate something that appears to be 430 00:19:53,090 --> 00:19:50,370 a genuine encounter with the afterlife 431 00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,100 then just wishful thinking or our 432 00:19:58,610 --> 00:19:55,679 subconscious taking our memories of 433 00:20:02,060 --> 00:19:58,620 these people and distilling them into 434 00:20:04,490 --> 00:20:02,070 some sort of framework yes there are 435 00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:04,500 those issues involved in these kinds of 436 00:20:10,340 --> 00:20:08,159 dreams and the dead can appear as dream 437 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:10,350 symbols for us for years that is quite 438 00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:11,570 common 439 00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:15,350 for the dead to return as representing 440 00:20:22,090 --> 00:20:17,360 memories from the past or certain 441 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:22,100 characteristics in ourselves or the way 442 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:24,320 in which we handle certain issues and 443 00:20:30,610 --> 00:20:27,970 problems in life and ordinary dreaming 444 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:30,620 tends to be different from these 445 00:20:36,430 --> 00:20:33,770 encountered dreams usually there's only 446 00:20:40,150 --> 00:20:36,440 one maybe two of these kinds of dreams 447 00:20:42,670 --> 00:20:40,160 that a person is going to have and it's 448 00:20:45,370 --> 00:20:42,680 usually immediately or shortly after 449 00:20:47,860 --> 00:20:45,380 someone has died within a few days 450 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:47,870 within a few weeks I have encountered 451 00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:51,650 them even as far out as a year or more 452 00:20:57,910 --> 00:20:56,000 but that's a very unusual so it's these 453 00:21:00,580 --> 00:20:57,920 dreams happen when there's a lot of 454 00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:00,590 energy present for this kind of 455 00:21:09,010 --> 00:21:05,600 experience and again it's like a real 456 00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:09,020 meeting it's not like ordinary dreaming 457 00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:11,840 which usually has no big beginning 458 00:21:16,540 --> 00:21:13,430 middle and an end it's usually not a 459 00:21:18,790 --> 00:21:16,550 complete story ordinary dreaming 460 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:18,800 expresses things about ourselves and our 461 00:21:22,810 --> 00:21:20,930 anxieties and and certainly could 462 00:21:25,660 --> 00:21:22,820 reflect back to us symbolic content 463 00:21:27,610 --> 00:21:25,670 about things like grieving but the the 464 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:27,620 real encounters are like having a 465 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:29,360 meeting with someone in ordinary life 466 00:21:32,770 --> 00:21:31,130 like walking into a coffee shop and 467 00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:32,780 sitting down with someone and saying hey 468 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:36,110 oh my gosh your dad what are you doing 469 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:39,410 here and then having a conversation that 470 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:42,350 is very pointed short and intensely 471 00:21:47,710 --> 00:21:45,650 meaningful to the living person and then 472 00:21:50,410 --> 00:21:47,720 the dead person makes their departure 473 00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:50,420 and they usually say things like please 474 00:21:54,790 --> 00:21:51,470 don't grieve for me 475 00:21:57,070 --> 00:21:54,800 I'm really fine I want you to be happy 476 00:21:59,410 --> 00:21:57,080 that leads us to a question by one of 477 00:22:02,140 --> 00:21:59,420 our listeners vespi hi folks who's been 478 00:22:05,980 --> 00:22:02,150 a poster at forum dr. Peric ask.com 479 00:22:07,930 --> 00:22:05,990 since early 2010 when were more active 480 00:22:10,570 --> 00:22:07,940 members and he says I often have dreams 481 00:22:12,670 --> 00:22:10,580 of my great-grandfather I often see his 482 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:12,680 death and I see him as he looks in 483 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:15,050 pictures when I see my great-grandmother 484 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:17,570 I see her as she was when II died 20 485 00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:20,450 years old is this a message from him or 486 00:22:23,670 --> 00:22:23,060 simply dreams and they may he mentions 487 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:23,680 at this 488 00:22:27,570 --> 00:22:25,450 happens once every few months he has 489 00:22:29,580 --> 00:22:27,580 this big we'll get into Rosemary's 490 00:22:33,930 --> 00:22:29,590 answer in a moment her book is called 491 00:22:35,220 --> 00:22:33,940 dream messages from the afterlife and so 492 00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:35,230 much more to cover on that subject 493 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gonna hear stuff here that you 607 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:12,620 probably won't hear anywhere else hear 608 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:16,610 that George see Chris avoided the 609 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:19,090 temptation and saying you're in the 610 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:22,850 afterlife because that's not the name of 611 00:27:27,970 --> 00:27:25,970 the show but very much alive 612 00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:27,980 well okay some people might disagree 613 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:30,470 with you rosemary ellen guiley process 614 00:27:35,889 --> 00:27:33,049 the question would you respond when 615 00:27:38,169 --> 00:27:35,899 someone has frequent dreams like that if 616 00:27:39,789 --> 00:27:38,179 this was happening to me and this is the 617 00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:39,799 approach that I would take in dream work 618 00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:43,279 facilitation was someone that I would I 619 00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:45,830 would look at them first as symbolic the 620 00:27:51,399 --> 00:27:49,070 genuine encounter dreams and when I say 621 00:27:56,380 --> 00:27:51,409 genuine I'm referring to these as 622 00:27:57,850 --> 00:27:56,390 subjective experiences and we have to 623 00:27:59,560 --> 00:27:57,860 take into account how people are 624 00:28:02,380 --> 00:27:59,570 affected by them and how they interpret 625 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:02,390 them but they don't happen very often 626 00:28:08,350 --> 00:28:05,330 it's a one-off it's maybe a couple of 627 00:28:10,750 --> 00:28:08,360 dreams whereas when the dead come 628 00:28:13,450 --> 00:28:10,760 repeatedly in dreams we should look 629 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:13,460 first at what they are symbolizing to us 630 00:28:19,659 --> 00:28:17,090 if the dreamer is reviewing that 631 00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:19,669 person's death on a repeated basis there 632 00:28:26,590 --> 00:28:23,809 may be some unresolved emotions over 633 00:28:28,419 --> 00:28:26,600 that death or the relationship with the 634 00:28:31,779 --> 00:28:28,429 grandparent like some unfinished 635 00:28:34,779 --> 00:28:31,789 business or closure that may need to to 636 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:34,789 occur that's how I would approach those 637 00:28:40,990 --> 00:28:38,330 that frequency of dreaming okay that's 638 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:41,000 that makes sense to me I would think 639 00:28:45,850 --> 00:28:43,610 that the the potential for real contact 640 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:45,860 would like you said be short and sweet 641 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:47,510 and probably only happened once maybe 642 00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:50,539 twice I have another couple of questions 643 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:54,230 from Poulter worst who's posted to his 644 00:28:58,750 --> 00:28:56,330 questions for rosemary at forum dr. 645 00:29:00,490 --> 00:28:58,760 Perik asked calm he wanted to know if 646 00:29:03,399 --> 00:29:00,500 there's a way to tell between genuine 647 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:03,409 contact with a dis incarnate or we were 648 00:29:06,970 --> 00:29:04,730 just a dream about them and I think 649 00:29:09,340 --> 00:29:06,980 you've kind of really answered that 650 00:29:11,379 --> 00:29:09,350 question but this is an interesting one 651 00:29:11,980 --> 00:29:11,389 here that he has if dreams are the most 652 00:29:15,010 --> 00:29:11,990 common 653 00:29:17,169 --> 00:29:15,020 communication in this forum our psychic 654 00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:17,179 medium somehow able to achieve dream 655 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:19,000 states while perfectly awake and 656 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:22,250 seemingly not in a trance if so how did 657 00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:24,050 they differentiate between genuine 658 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:26,600 contacting these waking dreams and its 659 00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:28,370 separation from their own imagination 660 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:31,070 and he goes on to say maybe some are 661 00:29:36,580 --> 00:29:34,550 trying to differentiate it all so that's 662 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:36,590 a good question how does a psychic 663 00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:38,530 medium how are they able to 664 00:29:43,870 --> 00:29:41,390 differentiate between their own 665 00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:43,880 imaginations and an a true 666 00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:46,880 you know dis incarnate contact well the 667 00:29:52,030 --> 00:29:49,670 Faculty of imagination is as part of 668 00:29:53,980 --> 00:29:52,040 this process is the ability to perceive 669 00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:53,990 something that isn't readily apparent to 670 00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:58,730 the five senses and so altered state 671 00:30:03,610 --> 00:30:01,520 work involving trance and giving 672 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:03,620 readings and things like that like 673 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:06,770 dreaming does involve the Faculty of 674 00:30:12,510 --> 00:30:09,650 imagination this is a question that has 675 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:12,520 been quite a stumbling block to 676 00:30:17,230 --> 00:30:14,890 psychical researchers and 677 00:30:21,850 --> 00:30:17,240 parapsychologists and people attempting 678 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:21,860 to put a scientific perspective on all 679 00:30:27,340 --> 00:30:24,410 of these subjective experiences how do 680 00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:27,350 we how do we define or get around or try 681 00:30:33,910 --> 00:30:29,830 and objectify these subjective 682 00:30:35,710 --> 00:30:33,920 experiences mediums and psychics do go 683 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:35,720 into altered states when they give 684 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:37,330 readings and that can be anywhere from 685 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:40,850 kind of a light alpha state to something 686 00:30:48,270 --> 00:30:44,450 that is you know a deep trance where a 687 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:48,280 medium allows a complete takeover by a 688 00:30:56,650 --> 00:30:52,970 communicating personality and there's 689 00:30:58,380 --> 00:30:56,660 another factor to which an old psychical 690 00:31:01,180 --> 00:30:58,390 researcher by the name of WT stead 691 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:01,190 described as the stained-glass window 692 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:04,850 effect and that's that when light comes 693 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:07,370 through a stained-glass window people 694 00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:11,330 see the colors differently and so we're 695 00:31:17,020 --> 00:31:13,540 always going to put our personal 696 00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:17,030 perspective of our interpretation on 697 00:31:24,610 --> 00:31:21,200 these sorts of experiences a mediums 698 00:31:25,789 --> 00:31:24,620 contact with the dead to me is it's it's 699 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:25,799 indirect as 700 00:31:29,479 --> 00:31:27,090 having your own direct experience 701 00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:29,489 because it's being interpreted for you 702 00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:31,679 by the medium and they're going to have 703 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:34,350 a whole host of factors at play 704 00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:36,809 consciously and subconsciously in terms 705 00:31:42,619 --> 00:31:39,809 of how they interpret the experience the 706 00:31:45,409 --> 00:31:42,629 information that they get when you have 707 00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,419 a dream it's a direct experience and in 708 00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:47,279 fact dreams have been called throughout 709 00:31:54,259 --> 00:31:50,220 the ages as a direct experience of God 710 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:54,269 because they take us into another realm 711 00:32:00,649 --> 00:31:56,610 Plato called them the between state the 712 00:32:04,129 --> 00:32:00,659 place that we go to meet the gods to 713 00:32:07,609 --> 00:32:04,139 have encounters that are impossible or 714 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:07,619 difficult in waking consciousness so the 715 00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:11,210 dream provides us this direct bridge 716 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:15,840 into these other realities that have 717 00:32:21,109 --> 00:32:19,049 their own validity their even their own 718 00:32:25,129 --> 00:32:21,119 ground rules so to speak which are much 719 00:32:27,379 --> 00:32:25,139 different than ordinary reality and the 720 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:27,389 thing that I find one of the things that 721 00:32:31,580 --> 00:32:29,129 I find very significant about these 722 00:32:33,859 --> 00:32:31,590 experiences is that the descriptions of 723 00:32:36,729 --> 00:32:33,869 them and the patterns of them are fairly 724 00:32:39,139 --> 00:32:36,739 consistent over time and culture and 725 00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,149 even though we we don't really have a 726 00:32:44,539 --> 00:32:41,519 good scientific mechanism for proving 727 00:32:46,849 --> 00:32:44,549 them we have you know what science would 728 00:32:48,649 --> 00:32:46,859 call evidence in support of which is how 729 00:32:50,979 --> 00:32:48,659 science winds up dealing with the 730 00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:50,989 paranormal in general most the time is 731 00:32:54,769 --> 00:32:53,399 we have evidence in support of things 732 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:54,779 but we don't have scientific evidence 733 00:33:00,769 --> 00:32:57,570 proving things and so we have lots of 734 00:33:03,249 --> 00:33:00,779 evidence in support of these experiences 735 00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:03,259 being fairly consistent to human beings 736 00:33:12,529 --> 00:33:08,609 over over history that indicate that we 737 00:33:14,629 --> 00:33:12,539 have these opportunities for contact 738 00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:14,639 with otherworldly realms and that 739 00:33:19,369 --> 00:33:15,919 includes the afterlife 740 00:33:21,529 --> 00:33:19,379 well pole tours goes on and has a couple 741 00:33:23,989 --> 00:33:21,539 of other questions here you know it's a 742 00:33:26,239 --> 00:33:23,999 little early in the show to be asking 743 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:26,249 questions but we do have so many and I 744 00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:27,570 think that they're perfectly in line 745 00:33:32,419 --> 00:33:29,100 with where we're going in the 746 00:33:35,090 --> 00:33:32,429 conversation and this has to do with 747 00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:35,100 near-death reports he wonders could the 748 00:33:38,990 --> 00:33:37,590 differences in NDE reports and what 749 00:33:41,630 --> 00:33:39,000 seemed to be as you 750 00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:41,640 before in between the lines are in 751 00:33:46,490 --> 00:33:43,710 between lives memories sometimes 752 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:46,500 reported in alleged reincarnation cases 753 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:48,690 does that mean that we all dream up our 754 00:33:54,620 --> 00:33:51,330 own afterlife in other words is there 755 00:33:58,490 --> 00:33:54,630 some sort of imagination process that 756 00:34:02,180 --> 00:33:58,500 creates our own afterlife for us well in 757 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:02,190 a sense yes and I do agree with that in 758 00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:06,720 a way and I would explain it from the 759 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:09,780 standpoint of the the concept of the 760 00:34:15,710 --> 00:34:12,169 astral plane and occultism which is 761 00:34:17,419 --> 00:34:15,720 where the afterlife is on the astral 762 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:17,429 plane it's on a level of the astral 763 00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:21,090 plane and the astral plane is fluid it's 764 00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:23,250 formless and fluid and it molds itself 765 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:26,990 to expectation - and to thought 766 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:29,280 communications that we receive from the 767 00:34:33,980 --> 00:34:31,050 dead that come through direct experience 768 00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:33,990 like dreams through channelings through 769 00:34:42,110 --> 00:34:38,159 mediumship through readings have weighed 770 00:34:44,180 --> 00:34:42,120 in on this reality the literature for 771 00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:44,190 all of these communications is quite 772 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:48,179 substantial and what seemed to be 773 00:34:54,740 --> 00:34:50,730 dominant themes in these communications 774 00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:54,750 are that that the the afterlife molds 775 00:35:00,320 --> 00:34:56,730 itself to your expectations 776 00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:00,330 and my own theory is my own feeling is 777 00:35:07,310 --> 00:35:03,480 that when we die we go to a place of 778 00:35:09,770 --> 00:35:07,320 transition and this is most commonly 779 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:09,780 described as a beautiful garden or park 780 00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:12,570 like State Robert Monroe described it in 781 00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:15,750 his OBEs he felt it was the transition 782 00:35:23,060 --> 00:35:20,430 point to the afterlife it's described in 783 00:35:27,230 --> 00:35:23,070 in many of these dream experiences as 784 00:35:30,530 --> 00:35:27,240 the meeting place and in in other media 785 00:35:32,990 --> 00:35:30,540 mystic communications as well so we we 786 00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:33,000 seem to go to a place that of peace and 787 00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:35,040 beauty and calmness where we can make 788 00:35:41,330 --> 00:35:38,750 our transition and then it seems to be 789 00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:41,340 that the dead get adjusted to the 790 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:46,280 afterlife where we have places and 791 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:48,330 surroundings and things that are 792 00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:52,310 familiar to us and I think this is 793 00:35:59,680 --> 00:35:54,560 one possible explanation that can 794 00:36:01,870 --> 00:35:59,690 account for cultural perceptions of the 795 00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:01,880 afterlife when people have NDEs for 796 00:36:07,089 --> 00:36:04,760 example when Betty Eadie had her NDE it 797 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:07,099 conformed very strongly to her Mormon 798 00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:09,890 upbringing but another person who isn't 799 00:36:13,569 --> 00:36:11,960 a Mormon for example or might be of 800 00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:13,579 another religion could have an entirely 801 00:36:21,609 --> 00:36:17,750 different first 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Ortman comm 901 00:40:48,699 --> 00:40:48,209 that's dr. o RT ma n comm or call us 902 00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:48,709 today 903 00:40:55,339 --> 00:40:53,609 952 303 91 24 that's nine five two three 904 00:40:57,799 --> 00:40:55,349 oh three ninety one twenty four 905 00:41:02,280 --> 00:40:57,809 wellspring spinal care chiropractic done 906 00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:10,980 [Music] 907 00:41:22,910 --> 00:41:19,280 the power cast explores the afterlife 908 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:22,920 with rosemary ellen guiley I have a dumb 909 00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:23,610 question 910 00:41:28,690 --> 00:41:27,030 okay rosemary I have noticed probably in 911 00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:28,700 the last couple of years 912 00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:31,670 occasional and/or recurring dreams about 913 00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:34,980 my father who died on my birthday in 914 00:41:41,210 --> 00:41:38,520 1988 just shy of his 79th birthday and 915 00:41:42,860 --> 00:41:41,220 my brother everyone know about my 916 00:41:45,950 --> 00:41:42,870 brother by the way do a google of 917 00:41:47,570 --> 00:41:45,960 Wallace Herbert Steinberg as an 918 00:41:50,060 --> 00:41:47,580 interesting career in the health care 919 00:41:52,730 --> 00:41:50,070 industry and he died in the mid 90s in 920 00:41:55,490 --> 00:41:52,740 his early 60s rather suddenly in his 921 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:55,500 sleep so the dreams mostly are about 922 00:42:00,890 --> 00:41:58,410 them being alive me interacting with 923 00:42:04,010 --> 00:42:00,900 them but not so much for special 924 00:42:06,620 --> 00:42:04,020 messages or conversations just hanging 925 00:42:08,780 --> 00:42:06,630 out is that just hanging out having a 926 00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:08,790 dream or is there more to it if those 927 00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:10,710 are my dreams I would interpret them 928 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:13,140 from an ordinary dream perspective ie 929 00:42:18,740 --> 00:42:16,250 having symbolic content meaningful to me 930 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:18,750 sometimes we have dreams that connect us 931 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:20,850 with the past with memories that are 932 00:42:27,590 --> 00:42:24,510 pleasant and it may be something going 933 00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:27,600 on in our current life that we feel we 934 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,000 need to either get in touch with those 935 00:42:34,340 --> 00:42:31,680 emotions again or there's something 936 00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:34,350 about the relationship or the person 937 00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:37,260 that's meaningful to us in a symbolic 938 00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:40,710 way from the conventional dream work 939 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:44,030 perspective that many therapists employ 940 00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:46,410 everything in a dream including other 941 00:42:51,740 --> 00:42:49,680 people are treated as literally 942 00:42:54,380 --> 00:42:51,750 messengers of the self they represent 943 00:42:57,860 --> 00:42:54,390 something about the dreamer and dreams 944 00:43:00,800 --> 00:42:57,870 are highly emotional in content they 945 00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:00,810 near back to us of how we're really 946 00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:02,940 feeling about ourselves and how we're 947 00:43:09,170 --> 00:43:05,460 doing in life they can bring material up 948 00:43:12,020 --> 00:43:09,180 from the subconscious that helps us sort 949 00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:12,030 things out in the present so I would 950 00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:14,390 look at the individuals in the dream 951 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:17,910 what do they have to say about me what 952 00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:20,250 emotions are evoked by by the 953 00:43:24,930 --> 00:43:22,710 relationship and that time period and 954 00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:24,940 see if it makes sense and 955 00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,150 contemporary sort of perspective that 956 00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:31,200 would be a starting point in my case 957 00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:34,660 what it is is that the encounter with 958 00:43:40,620 --> 00:43:37,960 them seems natural in the dream state 959 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:40,630 I presume they're alive and going about 960 00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:42,910 their business and it doesn't occur to 961 00:43:47,370 --> 00:43:45,040 me until the end of the dream or when I 962 00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:47,380 get up hey of course they're no longer 963 00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:51,599 here there may be some old lingering 964 00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:54,609 emotional threads even about coming to 965 00:44:02,099 --> 00:43:58,810 terms with somebody's passing there may 966 00:44:04,859 --> 00:44:02,109 be something of that's passing in the 967 00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:04,869 present life like in your activities now 968 00:44:12,059 --> 00:44:09,310 that is going away and or maybe is 969 00:44:16,349 --> 00:44:12,069 symbolically dead in some energetic sort 970 00:44:19,020 --> 00:44:16,359 of way and you haven't fully shut the 971 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:19,030 door on it those would be possibilities 972 00:44:24,990 --> 00:44:22,089 - all right Godwin I've got a real good 973 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:25,000 one for your ro this was a very bizarre 974 00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:28,810 dream I just recently had about a month 975 00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:31,990 ago I I don't think you ever met Naya 976 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:34,390 but I was in a relationship for eight 977 00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:37,450 years with a wonderful woman we kind of 978 00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:41,440 drifted apart about 2007 and she died of 979 00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:44,950 galloping leukemia passed this past June 980 00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:47,950 and it was you know after being together 981 00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:49,569 with somebody for eight years obviously 982 00:44:54,210 --> 00:44:50,800 you know I went through some emotional 983 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:54,220 turmoil about her just sudden passing I 984 00:45:00,900 --> 00:44:57,490 mean it was it was lightning fast and a 985 00:45:03,180 --> 00:45:00,910 month ago I had a dream of her as she 986 00:45:04,770 --> 00:45:03,190 came right up in my face and was was 987 00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:04,780 talking to me but I couldn't hear her 988 00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:09,700 and she seemed very insistent the dream 989 00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:11,920 was was quite lucid and at one point 990 00:45:16,890 --> 00:45:13,990 there was movement above my head I 991 00:45:18,540 --> 00:45:16,900 turned and looked up and this the only 992 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:18,550 way I can describe it it's like a blob 993 00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:23,770 of of like rubber or some sort of latex 994 00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:25,839 material filled my mouth and I could 995 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:28,240 feel it starting to hard and I spit it 996 00:45:33,450 --> 00:45:31,690 on the ground and the part that had gone 997 00:45:34,980 --> 00:45:33,460 up between my teeth and my lips had 998 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:34,990 hardened and I pulled this ring of 999 00:45:38,609 --> 00:45:36,490 rubber out and I threw it on the ground 1000 00:45:40,739 --> 00:45:38,619 I instantly woke up 1001 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:40,749 and I thought man that was totally 1002 00:45:46,009 --> 00:45:42,729 bizarre I mean it was really lucid it 1003 00:45:48,779 --> 00:45:46,019 was in color and then come to find out 1004 00:45:51,019 --> 00:45:48,789 right around that time across the street 1005 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:51,029 there was a murder-suicide that happened 1006 00:45:57,569 --> 00:45:53,650 in the house across the street from me 1007 00:45:59,459 --> 00:45:57,579 which I didn't really equate the two but 1008 00:46:02,130 --> 00:45:59,469 I'm wondering perhaps there was some 1009 00:46:03,959 --> 00:46:02,140 sort of warning there this was the only 1010 00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:03,969 dream I've ever had of her since she 1011 00:46:10,769 --> 00:46:07,200 died and I just find the the timing uh 1012 00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:10,779 rather disturbing you had the dream at 1013 00:46:17,249 --> 00:46:14,049 about the time of the murder 1014 00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:17,259 yeah I'm not really sure what the time 1015 00:46:22,579 --> 00:46:19,569 of death was but yeah it would have been 1016 00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:22,589 within the same hour well there are 1017 00:46:28,769 --> 00:46:25,150 dreams on record and in the literature 1018 00:46:31,620 --> 00:46:28,779 of the the dead returning for light what 1019 00:46:34,799 --> 00:46:31,630 I call life guidance dreams and that 1020 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:34,809 includes warnings that they they have 1021 00:46:40,890 --> 00:46:38,890 warnings of significance for the 1022 00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:40,900 dreamers sometimes it's very personal in 1023 00:46:47,489 --> 00:46:44,529 nature and sometimes it's not pertaining 1024 00:46:48,930 --> 00:46:47,499 to them but warning of some other events 1025 00:46:52,279 --> 00:46:48,940 that are going to happen of a 1026 00:46:55,259 --> 00:46:52,289 precognitive nature and that is another 1027 00:47:01,380 --> 00:46:55,269 category of dream visits from the dead 1028 00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:01,390 how much they combine symbology and the 1029 00:47:06,930 --> 00:47:03,609 precognitive Faculty of the Dreaming 1030 00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:06,940 mind with perhaps a real visit it could 1031 00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:10,089 be a combination of the two but that may 1032 00:47:16,589 --> 00:47:13,440 have been what happened in your case and 1033 00:47:19,289 --> 00:47:16,599 also combined with with the fact that 1034 00:47:21,299 --> 00:47:19,299 her death was a shock I remember the 1035 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:21,309 announcement when she died I think I saw 1036 00:47:26,729 --> 00:47:24,640 it on your Facebook page and you know 1037 00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:26,739 you had told me a lot about her and and 1038 00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:29,440 I was shocked too I can imagine what it 1039 00:47:34,620 --> 00:47:32,049 must have been like for you and there 1040 00:47:38,329 --> 00:47:34,630 could have been some closure elements 1041 00:47:41,489 --> 00:47:38,339 there to the dead do return to warn of 1042 00:47:44,910 --> 00:47:41,499 significant events and they also come 1043 00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:44,920 back to finish up business too and some 1044 00:47:51,059 --> 00:47:47,680 of those dreams do occur far out from 1045 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:51,069 the actual death yeah yeah that was it 1046 00:47:55,170 --> 00:47:52,480 was very striking I mean 1047 00:47:58,530 --> 00:47:55,180 what really was kind of disconcerting 1048 00:48:00,359 --> 00:47:58,540 was I saw her you know it when I first 1049 00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:00,369 remember seeing her she was some 1050 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:03,280 distance away you know 10 15 20 feet 1051 00:48:07,590 --> 00:48:05,410 away and then she came right up in my 1052 00:48:09,810 --> 00:48:07,600 face and she was very insistent talking 1053 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:09,820 to me her lips were moving but I 1054 00:48:17,490 --> 00:48:12,160 couldn't hear anything which I'm not 1055 00:48:20,099 --> 00:48:17,500 sure if that's symbolic but it was very 1056 00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:20,109 disconcerting and you can imagine my 1057 00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,350 surprise upon going outside and seeing 1058 00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:25,359 all the emergency vehicles across the 1059 00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:25,990 street 1060 00:48:32,970 --> 00:48:28,060 well you know I've having a cup of 1061 00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:32,980 coffee so yeah I did I do have a sense 1062 00:48:36,060 --> 00:48:34,480 that maybe she was warning me of 1063 00:48:40,590 --> 00:48:36,070 something but what's up with that with 1064 00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:40,600 the mouth full of like latex on the 1065 00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:43,240 ground that's bizarre is that is that 1066 00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:45,910 just is that part of the possible 1067 00:48:51,870 --> 00:48:47,560 warning or is that just some sort of 1068 00:48:53,220 --> 00:48:51,880 weird detail that I I mentioned this 1069 00:48:55,010 --> 00:48:53,230 somebody and they said oh it was manna 1070 00:48:57,900 --> 00:48:55,020 from heaven I said hell no it was 1071 00:49:00,420 --> 00:48:57,910 there's no way I mean if they did frozen 1072 00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:00,430 in my mouth or you know dried I wouldn't 1073 00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:02,710 have been able to uh you know use my 1074 00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:05,560 mouth again so maybe she was telling me 1075 00:49:16,550 --> 00:49:11,950 to shut up it's a symbol that certainly 1076 00:49:19,620 --> 00:49:16,560 needs interpreting in terms of how 1077 00:49:21,570 --> 00:49:19,630 emotionally the feeling of having this 1078 00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:21,580 in the mouth the mouth is a symbol of 1079 00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:25,510 power and communication and if that were 1080 00:49:28,890 --> 00:49:27,369 my dream to have that sort of substance 1081 00:49:33,690 --> 00:49:28,900 in my mouth it's the inability to 1082 00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:33,700 communicate something and I just 1083 00:49:39,180 --> 00:49:37,140 finished a half a million word book 1084 00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:39,190 after which she may not want to 1085 00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:41,460 communicate anything ever again 1086 00:49:46,849 --> 00:49:43,119 she's telling me you've been 1087 00:49:53,420 --> 00:49:50,240 it may also symbolize the inability to 1088 00:49:57,930 --> 00:49:53,430 to do anything about what was happening 1089 00:50:02,570 --> 00:49:57,940 you know across the street that's - yeah 1090 00:50:06,430 --> 00:50:02,580 so you're you know our Dreaming mind 1091 00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:06,440 sweeps the beyond the linear time 1092 00:50:11,470 --> 00:50:08,569 landscape all the time and many people 1093 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:11,480 have precognitive dreams of varying 1094 00:50:20,890 --> 00:50:16,130 sorts and this also is another uneven 1095 00:50:22,540 --> 00:50:20,900 faculty and people experience it 1096 00:50:24,609 --> 00:50:22,550 differently and sometimes they wonder 1097 00:50:26,890 --> 00:50:24,619 why did I have this particular dream why 1098 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:26,900 did I see this event that came to pass 1099 00:50:31,870 --> 00:50:28,490 and I couldn't do anything about it 1100 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:31,880 and this seems to be a faculty that I 1101 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:33,650 think is still under evolutionary 1102 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:36,890 development and people and were we're in 1103 00:50:41,980 --> 00:50:39,490 kind of a kindergarten stage of it 1104 00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,990 well when we come back from our next 1105 00:50:46,180 --> 00:50:43,760 break I'd really like to get a little 1106 00:50:48,490 --> 00:50:46,190 bit more into examples of warning dreams 1107 00:50:51,609 --> 00:50:48,500 I know I have read myself in the 1108 00:50:54,220 --> 00:50:51,619 literature some pretty amazing dreams 1109 00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:54,230 that have been reported that that 1110 00:50:57,250 --> 00:50:56,000 actually are precognitive in nature 1111 00:50:59,650 --> 00:50:57,260 maybe we can go through some of those 1112 00:51:02,200 --> 00:50:59,660 when we come back oh that's gonna be 1113 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:02,210 fascinating going to explore that the 1114 00:51:07,930 --> 00:51:04,970 book is called dream messages from the 1115 00:51:10,270 --> 00:51:07,940 afterlife and the author the author of 1116 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:10,280 many many many books did I say many 1117 00:51:14,349 --> 00:51:12,770 books is rosemary ellen guiley and by 1118 00:51:15,970 --> 00:51:14,359 the way folks we'll be doing an episode 1119 00:51:19,450 --> 00:51:15,980 in the next couple of weeks 1120 00:51:22,780 --> 00:51:19,460 featuring our own Chris O'Brien and his 1121 00:51:25,180 --> 00:51:22,790 book stalking the herd a man you mental 1122 00:51:27,700 --> 00:51:25,190 work representing many years of research 1123 00:51:33,900 --> 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know where he's got that imagine 1166 00:54:21,579 --> 00:54:20,510 myself with a mouth full of with quickly 1167 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:21,589 drying latex 1168 00:54:26,740 --> 00:54:25,010 okay that's latex mouth O'Brien and I 1169 00:54:29,020 --> 00:54:26,750 don't know what I am but we have rose 1170 00:54:30,789 --> 00:54:29,030 mary ellen guiley and we know what she 1171 00:54:31,539 --> 00:54:30,799 has to say Chris she wanted to bring up 1172 00:54:34,420 --> 00:54:31,549 another topic 1173 00:54:37,710 --> 00:54:34,430 you know this whole idea of precognitive 1174 00:54:41,049 --> 00:54:37,720 dreams I think the literature is 1175 00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:41,059 contains some pretty amazing examples of 1176 00:54:47,380 --> 00:54:44,960 things that were you know it dreamed 1177 00:54:49,630 --> 00:54:47,390 about and then they came true do we have 1178 00:54:51,250 --> 00:54:49,640 some good examples that would might take 1179 00:54:52,930 --> 00:54:51,260 some of our skeptics and set them back a 1180 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:52,940 little bit I know there are some and I'm 1181 00:55:01,359 --> 00:54:56,930 sure you've dug some up there are quite 1182 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:01,369 a few exemplary dreams of forecasting 1183 00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:03,170 death that have been documented since 1184 00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:06,319 ancient times Abraham Lincoln is 1185 00:55:10,839 --> 00:55:08,480 probably the most famous one where he 1186 00:55:13,329 --> 00:55:10,849 has the dream that someone has died in 1187 00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:13,339 the White House and he hears people 1188 00:55:18,430 --> 00:55:15,680 crying and then you know he finds out 1189 00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:18,440 that he's the one laid out in the coffin 1190 00:55:24,010 --> 00:55:21,710 but one of the more remarkable ones in 1191 00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:24,020 terms of detail that really struck me 1192 00:55:29,140 --> 00:55:27,710 occurred in 1914 and it had to do with 1193 00:55:31,900 --> 00:55:29,150 some of the events that triggered off 1194 00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:31,910 World War one history buffs remember 1195 00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:35,119 that the Archduke Ferdinand and his wife 1196 00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:38,569 were assassinated as they rode in a 1197 00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:41,599 motorcade and that this was one of the 1198 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:44,240 events that led to war wasn't the entire 1199 00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:46,250 cause because tensions were were quite 1200 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:48,670 bad by then but on the eve of their 1201 00:55:55,089 --> 00:55:51,770 assassination a man who knew them by the 1202 00:55:59,680 --> 00:55:55,099 name of Bishop Joseph Lonnie had this 1203 00:56:01,990 --> 00:55:59,690 lucid dream that he knew meant their 1204 00:56:03,490 --> 00:56:02,000 death their impending death and there 1205 00:56:06,010 --> 00:56:03,500 wasn't anything he could do about it and 1206 00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:06,020 in the dream he goes to his desk and he 1207 00:56:08,620 --> 00:56:07,609 looks through some letters and he finds 1208 00:56:10,270 --> 00:56:08,630 one bearing the 1209 00:56:12,070 --> 00:56:10,280 she loved the archduke and he opens it 1210 00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:12,080 up it's in the Archduke's handwriting 1211 00:56:17,020 --> 00:56:14,030 the whole letter is bordered in black 1212 00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:17,030 and a postcard falls out and it's a 1213 00:56:22,330 --> 00:56:19,760 postcard of the Archduke and his wife in 1214 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:22,340 this motorcade and then this scene comes 1215 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:24,290 to life it's like he's watching a movie 1216 00:56:29,710 --> 00:56:27,010 not just looking at a postcard he sees 1217 00:56:32,620 --> 00:56:29,720 two young men leap out from the crowd 1218 00:56:34,510 --> 00:56:32,630 and shoot them to death the letter is 1219 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:34,520 addressed personally to him and at the 1220 00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:37,490 end it says from the Archduke I herewith 1221 00:56:42,310 --> 00:56:39,710 inform you that today my wife and I will 1222 00:56:44,620 --> 00:56:42,320 fall victims to an assassination we 1223 00:56:46,690 --> 00:56:44,630 commend ourselves to your pious prayers 1224 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:46,700 so he wakes up in the middle of the 1225 00:56:51,010 --> 00:56:49,010 night in tears and he just knows that 1226 00:56:52,690 --> 00:56:51,020 this event is going to happen and he 1227 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:52,700 can't do anything about it and sure 1228 00:56:56,980 --> 00:56:54,530 enough it does the only difference 1229 00:56:59,110 --> 00:56:56,990 between his dream and the real event is 1230 00:57:02,380 --> 00:56:59,120 that there was one assassin not nothing 1231 00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:02,390 to do yeah well let me ask you rosemary 1232 00:57:07,390 --> 00:57:05,510 how consistent is it for people to dream 1233 00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:07,400 of their own death or the death of 1234 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:10,400 someone close to them it's more common 1235 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:12,650 to dream of the death of someone close 1236 00:57:17,860 --> 00:57:15,770 very rare to dream of your own death or 1237 00:57:20,140 --> 00:57:17,870 at least you don't want to admit it well 1238 00:57:22,750 --> 00:57:20,150 I it probably would be so psychically 1239 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:22,760 shocking that it would be hard to come 1240 00:57:27,610 --> 00:57:24,650 to terms with I mean we all know we're 1241 00:57:29,350 --> 00:57:27,620 going to die but I've met very few 1242 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:29,360 people that really want to know exactly 1243 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:31,610 how and when they're going to die and if 1244 00:57:36,070 --> 00:57:33,290 they say they won't want to know that 1245 00:57:38,830 --> 00:57:36,080 and someone gives that information they 1246 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:38,840 can go into states near nervous 1247 00:57:45,550 --> 00:57:43,130 breakdown as that date approaches it 1248 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:45,560 also truth someone who is given that 1249 00:57:48,910 --> 00:57:47,090 death sentence because they have a 1250 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:48,920 terminal illness and the doctor says 1251 00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:51,050 listen you've got two weeks left you got 1252 00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:53,510 six months you got a year that's pretty 1253 00:57:57,790 --> 00:57:56,030 much getting an end date well it is and 1254 00:57:59,830 --> 00:57:57,800 then it sometimes becomes a 1255 00:58:03,010 --> 00:57:59,840 self-fulfilling prophecy and there's 1256 00:58:05,230 --> 00:58:03,020 been you know discussion and debate in 1257 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:05,240 the medical community about giving 1258 00:58:12,220 --> 00:58:08,930 people prognosis like that because they 1259 00:58:15,130 --> 00:58:12,230 then expect to die and then do they 1260 00:58:17,350 --> 00:58:15,140 actually seal their own fate more or 1261 00:58:18,970 --> 00:58:17,360 less do they close themselves off from 1262 00:58:21,130 --> 00:58:18,980 the possibility of some kind of a 1263 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:21,140 miraculous healing for example and a 1264 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:22,650 fatalistic placebo 1265 00:58:28,279 --> 00:58:25,650 sure but wouldn't you want if you were a 1266 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:28,289 doctor to tell your patient look all 1267 00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:31,170 things being equal this is not going to 1268 00:58:36,980 --> 00:58:34,230 prolong your life there are risks you 1269 00:58:38,779 --> 00:58:36,990 have to take steps for end-of-life 1270 00:58:41,089 --> 00:58:38,789 preparation even though we'll do the 1271 00:58:43,370 --> 00:58:41,099 best we can to prolong your life if 1272 00:58:46,130 --> 00:58:43,380 that's what you want I do agree with you 1273 00:58:49,069 --> 00:58:46,140 Jean and if I were in that situation I 1274 00:58:51,259 --> 00:58:49,079 would want to know realistically what 1275 00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:51,269 time I had left to so that I could put 1276 00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:53,849 all of my affairs in order it's one of 1277 00:58:58,220 --> 00:58:56,249 those double-edged swords that you know 1278 00:59:01,640 --> 00:58:58,230 you wind up having no real good answer 1279 00:59:04,910 --> 00:59:01,650 for but we have also many cases of 1280 00:59:07,279 --> 00:59:04,920 people who seem to have delayed their 1281 00:59:10,249 --> 00:59:07,289 deaths chosen their time of deaths in 1282 00:59:12,589 --> 00:59:10,259 order to get past meaningful 1283 00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:12,599 anniversaries or dates concerning the 1284 00:59:19,279 --> 00:59:16,799 living or until a family member as can 1285 00:59:21,950 --> 00:59:19,289 be present at the passing we have those 1286 00:59:23,660 --> 00:59:21,960 situations too let me ask you something 1287 00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:23,670 because you raised the question here as 1288 00:59:31,069 --> 00:59:26,809 I mentioned earlier my father died in 1289 00:59:33,259 --> 00:59:31,079 1988 on my birthday now just to give you 1290 00:59:36,289 --> 00:59:33,269 a preface to this the night before he 1291 00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,299 called me and he seemed to have more of 1292 00:59:41,059 --> 00:59:38,400 a desire to talk to me in the phone than 1293 00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:41,069 usual usually our conversations on the 1294 00:59:44,779 --> 00:59:42,960 phone were very brief he didn't come 1295 00:59:46,279 --> 00:59:44,789 across as the kind of guy who liked to 1296 00:59:49,970 --> 00:59:46,289 talk on the phone very much 1297 00:59:53,329 --> 00:59:49,980 but later on I took it as him trying to 1298 00:59:55,729 --> 00:59:53,339 wrap up his discussions with me knowing 1299 00:59:58,749 --> 00:59:55,739 that his time was very short what do you 1300 01:00:02,630 --> 00:59:58,759 think I think that that does happen and 1301 01:00:07,729 --> 01:00:02,640 this is also documented in the dream 1302 01:00:09,710 --> 01:00:07,739 literature and people usually don't 1303 01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:09,720 realize that until hindsight you know I 1304 01:00:14,930 --> 01:00:12,089 nobody thinks when they get a phone call 1305 01:00:17,059 --> 01:00:14,940 from someone that's emotionally 1306 01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:17,069 energized that it means somebody's going 1307 01:00:22,190 --> 01:00:19,710 to die soon but we see in retro see you 1308 01:00:26,089 --> 01:00:22,200 know makes sense in retrospect I've got 1309 01:00:28,279 --> 01:00:26,099 one I think that many of these people 1310 01:00:30,650 --> 01:00:28,289 really don't know it consciously that 1311 01:00:32,239 --> 01:00:30,660 they are about to pass over but if 1312 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:32,249 there's some sort of subconscious 1313 01:00:38,810 --> 01:00:36,330 prompting that in 1314 01:00:42,260 --> 01:00:38,820 Regus them or prompts them to to do 1315 01:00:44,380 --> 01:00:42,270 these these things that sort of you know 1316 01:00:48,290 --> 01:00:44,390 wrap things up with with the living and 1317 01:00:50,570 --> 01:00:48,300 putting the affairs in order I just had 1318 01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:50,580 a case recently with a young woman I 1319 01:00:56,540 --> 01:00:54,510 knew whose husband died unexpectedly and 1320 01:01:00,920 --> 01:00:56,550 suddenly in asleep he was only thirty 1321 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:00,930 years old and yet in about a week or two 1322 01:01:04,730 --> 01:01:02,730 before he died he was suddenly very 1323 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:04,740 anxious to put his affairs in order 1324 01:01:09,770 --> 01:01:06,810 well how many 30 year olds think about 1325 01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:09,780 wills and estates and leaving things for 1326 01:01:14,780 --> 01:01:13,110 the kids and whatnot but he didn't say 1327 01:01:16,670 --> 01:01:14,790 anything about thinking that he was 1328 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:16,680 going to die he just had this urge to 1329 01:01:21,530 --> 01:01:19,410 put all of his affairs in order so 1330 01:01:24,740 --> 01:01:21,540 something was going on from perhaps the 1331 01:01:27,590 --> 01:01:24,750 perspective of the higher self there do 1332 01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:27,600 you think then that people in general or 1333 01:01:33,140 --> 01:01:30,720 in some cases know their time is short 1334 01:01:35,930 --> 01:01:33,150 even if they can't verbalize it I do 1335 01:01:39,730 --> 01:01:35,940 think that many people have a sense on 1336 01:01:42,980 --> 01:01:39,740 some level of consciousness after 9/11 1337 01:01:45,110 --> 01:01:42,990 in fact years after 9/11 one of the 1338 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:45,120 surviving wives and I quote some of her 1339 01:01:52,930 --> 01:01:47,690 stories in my book 1340 01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:52,940 Bonnie McInerney collected some 1341 01:01:58,460 --> 01:01:56,310 experiences of other families survivor 1342 01:02:02,300 --> 01:01:58,470 families and they talked about things 1343 01:02:04,790 --> 01:02:02,310 like a spouse or a father making 1344 01:02:06,410 --> 01:02:04,800 comments that indicated that he didn't 1345 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:06,420 think he was going to be around very 1346 01:02:13,490 --> 01:02:09,210 long or he wasn't going to be present or 1347 01:02:15,650 --> 01:02:13,500 that he was going to that his life was 1348 01:02:17,630 --> 01:02:15,660 going to end fairly soon I won't be 1349 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:17,640 around I'll never make it to age 1350 01:02:23,930 --> 01:02:20,130 whatever some of the remarks were rather 1351 01:02:26,420 --> 01:02:23,940 chilling like a husband and wife who 1352 01:02:29,060 --> 01:02:26,430 went on their usual summer vacation and 1353 01:02:31,490 --> 01:02:29,070 when the wife talked about what we're 1354 01:02:32,690 --> 01:02:31,500 going to do next summer in that context 1355 01:02:34,910 --> 01:02:32,700 the husband said oh I won't be around 1356 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:34,920 next summer just like that just 1357 01:02:38,660 --> 01:02:37,050 matter-of-factly and it unsettled her 1358 01:02:40,730 --> 01:02:38,670 greatly and she didn't quite know how to 1359 01:02:43,370 --> 01:02:40,740 answer that and then sure enough you 1360 01:02:45,590 --> 01:02:43,380 know he was not around the following 1361 01:02:49,050 --> 01:02:45,600 summer he was killed in the terrorist 1362 01:02:50,940 --> 01:02:49,060 attack there are also cases of 1363 01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:50,950 some of those people who were killed 1364 01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:54,640 making return visits to very dramatic 1365 01:03:00,480 --> 01:02:57,490 return visits to the living usually to 1366 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:00,490 just say goodbye don't don't grieve for 1367 01:03:06,089 --> 01:03:04,090 me I'm fine it was my time to go in some 1368 01:03:08,339 --> 01:03:06,099 cases there were settlings of estates 1369 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:08,349 you know we're missing papers and things 1370 01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:09,130 like that 1371 01:03:15,210 --> 01:03:12,640 so so these returning Souls actually 1372 01:03:16,890 --> 01:03:15,220 told them where to look for things yes 1373 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:16,900 there have been actually some very 1374 01:03:23,220 --> 01:03:20,650 unusual cases on on record even going 1375 01:03:25,230 --> 01:03:23,230 back to the days of Dante who wrote you 1376 01:03:29,220 --> 01:03:25,240 know the Divine Comedy Inferno and 1377 01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:29,230 Paradiso when purgatory Oh rosemary 1378 01:03:33,390 --> 01:03:31,510 let's do that after the break describe 1379 01:03:36,270 --> 01:03:33,400 that in more detail rosemary ellen 1380 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:36,280 guiley is with us Chris O'Brien has 1381 01:03:41,580 --> 01:03:38,770 taken the marbles out of his mouth he's 1382 01:03:48,900 --> 01:03:41,590 not using helium this time you're in the 1383 01:03:51,330 --> 01:03:48,910 afterlife do you need a website well you 1384 01:03:54,540 --> 01:03:51,340 can get a great deal on hosting services 1385 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:54,550 with namecheap s-- 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masterpiece Divine 1484 01:08:53,270 --> 01:08:50,550 Comedy were missing and nobody could 1485 01:08:56,090 --> 01:08:53,280 find them so it's like an incomplete 1486 01:08:59,480 --> 01:08:56,100 masterpiece they searched and searched 1487 01:09:02,000 --> 01:08:59,490 and then finally his son had a dream 1488 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:02,010 every one of these realistic dreams in 1489 01:09:05,900 --> 01:09:04,050 which his father came to him and told 1490 01:09:08,450 --> 01:09:05,910 him where the hiding place was nobody 1491 01:09:10,310 --> 01:09:08,460 knew and for reasons you know that were 1492 01:09:12,530 --> 01:09:10,320 never really explained from the 1493 01:09:14,450 --> 01:09:12,540 standpoint of history these missing 1494 01:09:17,210 --> 01:09:14,460 pages had been hidden behind a math that 1495 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:17,220 was hanging in a wall in a house where 1496 01:09:22,580 --> 01:09:19,890 he used to live now why they were there 1497 01:09:24,730 --> 01:09:22,590 who knows but the family was able to 1498 01:09:27,790 --> 01:09:24,740 retrieve them and then complete the 1499 01:09:29,900 --> 01:09:27,800 masterpiece there's a case in 1500 01:09:33,050 --> 01:09:29,910 parapsychology in the psychical research 1501 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:33,060 literature that scientists tried to 1502 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:34,650 figure out what was going on and that 1503 01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:36,570 was a missing will it was called the 1504 01:09:42,020 --> 01:09:38,400 chaff and will case and it happened in 1505 01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:42,030 the 1920s farmer died he had a will that 1506 01:09:47,050 --> 01:09:44,880 distributed all of his property to his 1507 01:09:49,730 --> 01:09:47,060 four sons then he changed his mind 1508 01:09:51,730 --> 01:09:49,740 rewrote the will left it all to one son 1509 01:09:55,850 --> 01:09:51,740 didn't even leave anything to his wife 1510 01:09:58,010 --> 01:09:55,860 and died and so all the estate went to 1511 01:10:00,620 --> 01:09:58,020 the one son and nobody contested the 1512 01:10:02,570 --> 01:10:00,630 will several years later one of the 1513 01:10:04,340 --> 01:10:02,580 other sons started having these dream 1514 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:04,350 Bizet's from his father where his father 1515 01:10:09,460 --> 01:10:06,810 was very agitated in the dream coming to 1516 01:10:12,410 --> 01:10:09,470 his bedside and in a very agitated state 1517 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:12,420 telling his son too that he they had to 1518 01:10:17,450 --> 01:10:14,610 get the the will be good apparently he 1519 01:10:20,090 --> 01:10:17,460 had changed his mind about the the 1520 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:20,100 distribution again and had written a new 1521 01:10:26,210 --> 01:10:23,370 will sewn it up in the inside coat of a 1522 01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:26,220 pocket and didn't tell anybody now it 1523 01:10:30,650 --> 01:10:27,840 turned out that and nobody knew about 1524 01:10:32,060 --> 01:10:30,660 the existence of this will so it turned 1525 01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:32,070 out that they still had the coat they 1526 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:35,110 found the will they took the court the 1527 01:10:39,709 --> 01:10:36,730 we know of the son who got all the 1528 01:10:42,419 --> 01:10:39,719 estate contested and she lost the 1529 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:42,429 remaining estate was redistributed and 1530 01:10:47,879 --> 01:10:44,770 parapsychologist studied this case 1531 01:10:49,890 --> 01:10:47,889 trying to figure out did the son the son 1532 01:10:51,959 --> 01:10:49,900 who didn't get anything did he discover 1533 01:10:54,030 --> 01:10:51,969 the will then concoct this story was 1534 01:10:58,050 --> 01:10:54,040 this clairvoyance was it a real dream 1535 01:11:00,240 --> 01:10:58,060 visit they came up with an no conclusion 1536 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:00,250 that there were four possible scenarios 1537 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:02,770 that could explain this event none of 1538 01:11:07,820 --> 01:11:05,290 which could be proved and so we were 1539 01:11:10,859 --> 01:11:07,830 left with this evidence in support of 1540 01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:10,869 his testimony that he had had genuine 1541 01:11:15,810 --> 01:11:14,080 dream visits from his father why did 1542 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:15,820 this go on you know why did four years 1543 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:19,090 elapsed that's a very unusual amount of 1544 01:11:24,870 --> 01:11:21,130 time that's one of the strangest cases 1545 01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:24,880 on record well well getting back to if 1546 01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:26,800 you know this the whole subject of 1547 01:11:31,530 --> 01:11:28,960 people having a sense of when they're 1548 01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:31,540 going to pass over let me relate a 1549 01:11:37,950 --> 01:11:34,510 personal story I was reunited with my 1550 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:37,960 birth mother after 41 years in 2001 and 1551 01:11:42,540 --> 01:11:40,690 I was able to spend uh you know a fairly 1552 01:11:47,490 --> 01:11:42,550 good amount of quality time with her 1553 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:47,500 before she died in 2008 2003 well the 1554 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:49,570 day she died it was on Christmas Day of 1555 01:11:56,220 --> 01:11:53,530 course and I was having a small 1556 01:11:59,459 --> 01:11:56,230 get-together at my house and the phone 1557 01:12:02,550 --> 01:11:59,469 rang it was it was her she had been in 1558 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:02,560 the hospital for two weeks after you 1559 01:12:07,229 --> 01:12:04,570 know my self and my three brothers had 1560 01:12:09,209 --> 01:12:07,239 gone out and for the first time you know 1561 01:12:11,010 --> 01:12:09,219 all five of us were together in the same 1562 01:12:13,649 --> 01:12:11,020 room which was quite something we spent 1563 01:12:16,530 --> 01:12:13,659 four days together the day we left she 1564 01:12:19,050 --> 01:12:16,540 went into the hospital and where she 1565 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:19,060 subsequently died but on the day she 1566 01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:21,130 died I got a phone call and it was her 1567 01:12:25,770 --> 01:12:22,960 and she said she just was calling to 1568 01:12:27,180 --> 01:12:25,780 wish me you know happen I was gonna call 1569 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:27,190 her later on but she beat me to the 1570 01:12:30,660 --> 01:12:28,690 punch and she said she just wanted to 1571 01:12:33,629 --> 01:12:30,670 wish me a Merry Christmas and that she 1572 01:12:36,510 --> 01:12:33,639 was her life was now vindicated she had 1573 01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:36,520 lost her sons but now she found them and 1574 01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:39,040 she felt like her life was complete and 1575 01:12:42,830 --> 01:12:41,110 she just wanted to tell me that she 1576 01:12:45,149 --> 01:12:42,840 loved me and she hung up the phone and 1577 01:12:46,830 --> 01:12:45,159 minutes later I got a call from the 1578 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:46,840 nurse saying when your mom I was in the 1579 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:47,410 room and when 1580 01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:49,690 mom hung up the phone she laid down and 1581 01:12:56,460 --> 01:12:52,800 died and the you know there was an no 1582 01:12:58,530 --> 01:12:56,470 you know do-not-resuscitate thing in 1583 01:13:00,360 --> 01:12:58,540 place so it took her a few minutes 1584 01:13:03,180 --> 01:13:00,370 before she called me but the nurse said 1585 01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:03,190 it was she was amazed because she's she 1586 01:13:06,990 --> 01:13:05,140 stood there and watched this happened so 1587 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:07,000 high ever feeling she knew she was gonna 1588 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:09,250 die and she just held out long enough to 1589 01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:11,290 make that phone call which kind of 1590 01:13:15,150 --> 01:13:13,510 warmed my heart I must say and but I 1591 01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:15,160 wish he died on Halloween and not 1592 01:13:22,290 --> 01:13:18,490 Christmas that is a beautiful experience 1593 01:13:25,650 --> 01:13:22,300 though Chris and there are cases on 1594 01:13:28,830 --> 01:13:25,660 record of the terminally ill who are in 1595 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:28,840 the final stages of life you know 1596 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:30,850 they're going to the dying process they 1597 01:13:35,970 --> 01:13:33,610 have these bursts of energy where 1598 01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:35,980 sometimes the the people who are present 1599 01:13:41,490 --> 01:13:38,320 around them think that there's going to 1600 01:13:43,950 --> 01:13:41,500 be a miraculous recovery and then within 1601 01:13:47,310 --> 01:13:43,960 minutes after that they're gone if 1602 01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:47,320 they've been in in comas they suddenly 1603 01:13:55,050 --> 01:13:51,070 wake up sit up say things they look 1604 01:13:58,500 --> 01:13:55,060 refreshed and rejuvenated and then BOOM 1605 01:14:01,790 --> 01:13:58,510 they're gone so it doesn't happen in all 1606 01:14:05,130 --> 01:14:01,800 cases but it has been documented by the 1607 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:05,140 medical and also the parapsychology 1608 01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:07,930 people who study deathbed visions let me 1609 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:09,760 ask you a question occurs to me here do 1610 01:14:15,930 --> 01:14:12,810 we find a greater percentage of deaths 1611 01:14:18,750 --> 01:14:15,940 around family events holidays things 1612 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:18,760 like that yeah usually if anything 1613 01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:21,250 people will if they seem to be able to 1614 01:14:28,050 --> 01:14:23,230 have a choice in the matter they will 1615 01:14:31,950 --> 01:14:28,060 hold off dying on important days and 1616 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:31,960 dates like that they will wait for those 1617 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:34,690 to pass and also for holidays as well 1618 01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:39,010 and we find these cases usually with 1619 01:14:45,710 --> 01:14:42,400 people who have had terminal illness you 1620 01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:45,720 know they've had a long process of dying 1621 01:14:53,460 --> 01:14:49,870 and it's it's as though they they don't 1622 01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:53,470 want to upset the living by by going at 1623 01:14:58,500 --> 01:14:56,110 certain times but then others don't 1624 01:15:00,180 --> 01:14:58,510 don't seem to have those options you 1625 01:15:02,490 --> 01:15:00,190 know like like Chris's 1626 01:15:05,790 --> 01:15:02,500 earth mom you know passing on Christmas 1627 01:15:08,700 --> 01:15:05,800 Day which you know for most people is an 1628 01:15:10,620 --> 01:15:08,710 emotionally difficult experience than to 1629 01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:10,630 have to relive every time the holiday 1630 01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:13,930 comes around you wonder why do they do 1631 01:15:19,470 --> 01:15:17,920 that well these are there are some 1632 01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:19,480 questions that we don't have any good 1633 01:15:24,690 --> 01:15:21,910 answers to I think if all of us could 1634 01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:24,700 choose the optimum circumstances of our 1635 01:15:32,190 --> 01:15:27,790 our passing we would all have peaceful 1636 01:15:35,370 --> 01:15:32,200 deaths and they would never be at a time 1637 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:35,380 that that would be they would or let's 1638 01:15:40,380 --> 01:15:36,850 put this a they would they would be at a 1639 01:15:44,670 --> 01:15:40,390 time that would be have a minimal 1640 01:15:47,310 --> 01:15:44,680 emotional impact on loved ones not that 1641 01:15:49,860 --> 01:15:47,320 someone's passing is ever minimal but we 1642 01:15:51,930 --> 01:15:49,870 would try and minimize the shock as much 1643 01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:51,940 as possible well you certainly wouldn't 1644 01:15:55,980 --> 01:15:54,310 want them to have a long illness as I 1645 01:15:58,350 --> 01:15:55,990 mentioned my father was quite healthy 1646 01:16:00,000 --> 01:15:58,360 till the end of his days and he's 1647 01:16:02,730 --> 01:16:00,010 playing cards with his friends and he 1648 01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:02,740 died of a heart attack but it was quick 1649 01:16:09,420 --> 01:16:06,490 my brother died in his sleep so again 1650 01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:09,430 there was some history of a painful end 1651 01:16:15,210 --> 01:16:12,490 I do not recall anything about him 1652 01:16:17,390 --> 01:16:15,220 having some kind of serious illness it 1653 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:17,400 just happened I think if you're gonna go 1654 01:16:22,830 --> 01:16:19,930 you might as well just go not have to 1655 01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:22,840 endure the pain recovering from cancer 1656 01:16:26,670 --> 01:16:24,640 surgery or something 1657 01:16:28,890 --> 01:16:26,680 we have rosemary ellen guiley the book 1658 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:28,900 is dream messages from the afterlife 1659 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:31,690 with gene and Chris you're in the 1660 01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:39,010 Barrett cast leading the way for the 1661 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I was young Jean my mom had a lot 1773 01:21:34,459 --> 01:21:31,619 of the cognitive dreams and I never had 1774 01:21:36,649 --> 01:21:34,469 the the type of dreams that she had in 1775 01:21:39,979 --> 01:21:36,659 that regard there were other ways that 1776 01:21:43,370 --> 01:21:39,989 psychic things manifested for me but I 1777 01:21:46,129 --> 01:21:43,380 became fascinated as an adolescent by 1778 01:21:49,549 --> 01:21:46,139 her precognition in dreams and they were 1779 01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:49,559 usually disturbing dreams about people 1780 01:21:54,890 --> 01:21:52,070 dying either people in the news or 1781 01:21:56,930 --> 01:21:54,900 acquaintances things like that and they 1782 01:21:58,640 --> 01:21:56,940 were very distressing to us as they 1783 01:22:01,399 --> 01:21:58,650 would be to anyone who would have these 1784 01:22:04,669 --> 01:22:01,409 these sorts of experiences but but for 1785 01:22:06,739 --> 01:22:04,679 me as an adolescent it was amazing to me 1786 01:22:11,540 --> 01:22:06,749 that dreams could look into the future 1787 01:22:15,410 --> 01:22:11,550 and so I started reading up about dreams 1788 01:22:19,279 --> 01:22:15,420 and psychic faculties telepathy things 1789 01:22:22,489 --> 01:22:19,289 like that and I started experimenting 1790 01:22:24,770 --> 01:22:22,499 with my dreams I experimented doing 1791 01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:24,780 astral traveling and dreams sending 1792 01:22:31,279 --> 01:22:28,110 people messages getting messages and all 1793 01:22:33,489 --> 01:22:31,289 with enough success to convince me that 1794 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:33,499 there was really something very powerful 1795 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:36,210 about dreams that connected us to 1796 01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:39,449 something greater than our reality my 1797 01:22:45,529 --> 01:22:43,199 father died quite suddenly when I was in 1798 01:22:48,500 --> 01:22:45,539 my early 30s and I did have a dream 1799 01:22:51,049 --> 01:22:48,510 visit from him and that was very 1800 01:22:53,330 --> 01:22:51,059 significant to me in exploring this 1801 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:53,340 particular dimension of dreaming I 1802 01:22:59,239 --> 01:22:56,130 mentioned that the dream people come for 1803 01:23:01,339 --> 01:22:59,249 unfinished business and sometimes we 1804 01:23:05,029 --> 01:23:01,349 also help the dead make their transition 1805 01:23:07,910 --> 01:23:05,039 - and not everyone is comfortable going 1806 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:07,920 when they're going well my dad was a 1807 01:23:15,919 --> 01:23:11,010 very active man he was retired he was in 1808 01:23:17,540 --> 01:23:15,929 his 70s when he died but he was retired 1809 01:23:19,470 --> 01:23:17,550 had a lot of hobbies and a lot of 1810 01:23:22,419 --> 01:23:19,480 activities and he had an an your 1811 01:23:24,910 --> 01:23:22,429 well the first aneurysm didn't get him 1812 01:23:27,100 --> 01:23:24,920 but he had another aneurysm that 18 1813 01:23:29,770 --> 01:23:27,110 months later did and he died on the 1814 01:23:32,290 --> 01:23:29,780 operating table 3,000 miles away in 1815 01:23:36,610 --> 01:23:32,300 Seattle and I was out in New York so of 1816 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:36,620 course I had the shock I had a you know 1817 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:39,890 no closure you know I wasn't present so 1818 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:43,850 I had a lot of emotional things to deal 1819 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:46,489 with and I was very close with him there 1820 01:23:51,399 --> 01:23:48,890 was some unusual aspects to to this 1821 01:23:54,310 --> 01:23:51,409 dream well two weeks after he died I had 1822 01:23:57,790 --> 01:23:54,320 a dream visit from him in which the two 1823 01:24:00,310 --> 01:23:57,800 of us were in my parents house in the 1824 01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:00,320 living room sitting opposite each other 1825 01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:04,400 in chairs and the dream had these 1826 01:24:09,220 --> 01:24:06,560 unusual characteristics that I described 1827 01:24:12,490 --> 01:24:09,230 earlier of electrical atmosphere 1828 01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:12,500 lucidity the tactile sensations and 1829 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:15,110 whatnot and I'm looking at dad and I 1830 01:24:18,939 --> 01:24:17,090 know he's dead and I know that dad knows 1831 01:24:21,669 --> 01:24:18,949 he's dead and dad knows that I know he's 1832 01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:21,679 dead and I said to him dad what are you 1833 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:23,600 doing here you can't be here you're dead 1834 01:24:28,090 --> 01:24:26,449 you know he's not happy because all this 1835 01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:28,100 unfinished business you know all the 1836 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:29,449 things that he's still wanted to get 1837 01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:31,489 done and well nobody ever dies with 1838 01:24:35,770 --> 01:24:33,920 their calendar completely closed you 1839 01:24:38,649 --> 01:24:35,780 know so in the dream we have this long 1840 01:24:40,899 --> 01:24:38,659 conversation about why he can't stay at 1841 01:24:44,110 --> 01:24:40,909 the end of the dream I see him going off 1842 01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:44,120 into what looks like a big building and 1843 01:24:49,930 --> 01:24:46,850 I know it's in the afterlife and I know 1844 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:49,940 that dad has he's decided to go he's not 1845 01:24:56,290 --> 01:24:52,850 going to hang around and I felt after 1846 01:24:58,780 --> 01:24:56,300 this dream that I had helped my dad come 1847 01:25:03,430 --> 01:24:58,790 to terms and and make his transition it 1848 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:03,440 was as real to me as meeting somebody 1849 01:25:08,770 --> 01:25:04,850 here in waking life 1850 01:25:10,630 --> 01:25:08,780 well the clincher for me was that months 1851 01:25:13,060 --> 01:25:10,640 later and I never mentioned this dream 1852 01:25:15,459 --> 01:25:13,070 to my mother months later I was talking 1853 01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:15,469 to my mom and she said that for two 1854 01:25:19,780 --> 01:25:17,570 weeks after dad had died she could feel 1855 01:25:21,790 --> 01:25:19,790 him in the house she knew he was there 1856 01:25:23,620 --> 01:25:21,800 and she knew exactly where he was 1857 01:25:26,229 --> 01:25:23,630 sitting he liked to sit in his favorite 1858 01:25:27,879 --> 01:25:26,239 chair she would come in and feel she 1859 01:25:29,860 --> 01:25:27,889 couldn't see him as she could feel his 1860 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:29,870 she described it as like an electrical 1861 01:25:33,580 --> 01:25:31,850 presence in the house and she was 1862 01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:33,590 wondering why he was still 1863 01:25:40,270 --> 01:25:37,280 hanging around and that presence went 1864 01:25:42,250 --> 01:25:40,280 away after I had that dream and she said 1865 01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:42,260 you know two weeks after you know I 1866 01:25:45,670 --> 01:25:44,210 checked it you know approximate date 1867 01:25:48,370 --> 01:25:45,680 with her because I've written it down in 1868 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:48,380 my dream diary too at the time I had my 1869 01:25:53,140 --> 01:25:50,810 dream his presence ceased to be in the 1870 01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:53,150 house and she did not know I had that 1871 01:25:56,410 --> 01:25:54,050 that dream 1872 01:25:59,710 --> 01:25:56,420 Rosemarie let's go back to your mom and 1873 01:26:02,650 --> 01:25:59,720 her dreams of precognition were they 1874 01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:02,660 always about well-known people no in 1875 01:26:06,910 --> 01:26:04,490 fact most of the dreams were about 1876 01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:06,920 people within the circle of her personal 1877 01:26:11,890 --> 01:26:08,480 life she did have a dream about 1878 01:26:14,170 --> 01:26:11,900 President John F Kennedy and she did not 1879 01:26:16,780 --> 01:26:14,180 have a dream about any of the details of 1880 01:26:19,330 --> 01:26:16,790 his assassination or a date or anything 1881 01:26:21,250 --> 01:26:19,340 like that but her precognitive dreams 1882 01:26:26,140 --> 01:26:21,260 would usually happen within two to three 1883 01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:26,150 weeks of someone's passing and sometimes 1884 01:26:31,210 --> 01:26:28,730 she would know who it was going to be 1885 01:26:33,820 --> 01:26:31,220 but not when sometimes she would just 1886 01:26:36,700 --> 01:26:33,830 know that it was going to be someone a 1887 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:36,710 certain family member like a certain 1888 01:26:41,380 --> 01:26:39,650 relative or within their family and in 1889 01:26:45,460 --> 01:26:41,390 in the president President Kennedy's 1890 01:26:48,810 --> 01:26:45,470 case the dream she had was that she was 1891 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:48,820 participating in the funeral cortege not 1892 01:26:53,140 --> 01:26:50,570 walking on the street but she was a 1893 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:53,150 spectator watching it go down the street 1894 01:27:00,940 --> 01:26:56,650 and she knew that the president was dead 1895 01:27:03,700 --> 01:27:00,950 people who have be cognitive dreams like 1896 01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:03,710 that usually have some sort of hallmarks 1897 01:27:07,810 --> 01:27:06,050 to them that they know that that's a 1898 01:27:10,060 --> 01:27:07,820 precognitive dream and not a symbolic 1899 01:27:13,480 --> 01:27:10,070 dream and for my mother the two 1900 01:27:15,370 --> 01:27:13,490 distinguishing factors were other than 1901 01:27:20,650 --> 01:27:15,380 the intensity of the dream and the 1902 01:27:22,630 --> 01:27:20,660 lucidity of it a nauseated feeling in 1903 01:27:24,460 --> 01:27:22,640 her stomach that she could feel in the 1904 01:27:27,340 --> 01:27:24,470 dream and would still be present when 1905 01:27:29,890 --> 01:27:27,350 she awakened and also the presence of 1906 01:27:33,540 --> 01:27:29,900 her own dead mother and her dead mother 1907 01:27:38,110 --> 01:27:33,550 was with her while she was watching this 1908 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:38,120 cortege go down the street and when news 1909 01:27:44,590 --> 01:27:41,690 broke about President Kennedy being 1910 01:27:46,930 --> 01:27:44,600 assassinated I mean she was shocked of 1911 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:46,940 course but she had already 1912 01:27:52,570 --> 01:27:49,850 this certainty that something was was 1913 01:27:54,189 --> 01:27:52,580 going to happen to him soon and that he 1914 01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:54,199 was going to die she didn't know how 1915 01:27:59,800 --> 01:27:56,930 when she saw the the funeral procession 1916 01:28:04,840 --> 01:27:59,810 on the street it was exactly like the 1917 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:04,850 scene out of her dream and most of the 1918 01:28:09,610 --> 01:28:06,650 time as I mentioned they were family 1919 01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:09,620 members there was another case where she 1920 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:11,449 was she was worried that my dad was 1921 01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:12,770 going to die he had a heart condition 1922 01:28:18,910 --> 01:28:16,370 and she she had one of these dreams his 1923 01:28:21,729 --> 01:28:18,920 name was dawn she had a dream that she 1924 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:21,739 got news that dawn died of a heart 1925 01:28:26,470 --> 01:28:24,050 attack now my dad traveled a lot in 1926 01:28:30,670 --> 01:28:26,480 business so he could be away for weeks 1927 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:30,680 even months at a time and he was away 1928 01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:32,570 when she had this dream and she was very 1929 01:28:39,580 --> 01:28:34,610 concerned that she was going to get word 1930 01:28:41,850 --> 01:28:39,590 that dad passed away well the husband of 1931 01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:41,860 a friend of ours whose name was dawn 1932 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:46,310 died within two weeks of that dream and 1933 01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:49,730 he died of a heart attack so sometimes 1934 01:28:54,850 --> 01:28:51,710 these precognitive dreams are not 1935 01:28:57,820 --> 01:28:54,860 entirely we don't get the whole picture 1936 01:29:00,070 --> 01:28:57,830 I hear a lot of that and I see a lot of 1937 01:29:01,660 --> 01:29:00,080 that and the literature that people know 1938 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:01,670 something's going to happen but they 1939 01:29:06,939 --> 01:29:03,650 don't have quite all the information and 1940 01:29:09,220 --> 01:29:06,949 it's very distressing right or they get 1941 01:29:11,500 --> 01:29:09,230 the the name right or but the person 1942 01:29:14,340 --> 01:29:11,510 wrong as you just described now you 1943 01:29:18,459 --> 01:29:14,350 mentioned the the assassination of JFK 1944 01:29:22,420 --> 01:29:18,469 and this brings us to the whole a fairly 1945 01:29:25,540 --> 01:29:22,430 famous subject of Jeane Dixon allegedly 1946 01:29:29,110 --> 01:29:25,550 predicting - I guess confident said that 1947 01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:29,120 she had this precognitive sense that 1948 01:29:35,189 --> 01:29:32,960 that Kennedy was going to to die how 1949 01:29:38,910 --> 01:29:35,199 about other mediums I there's this 1950 01:29:42,910 --> 01:29:38,920 what's-her-name the Long Island medium 1951 01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:42,920 Theresa I think Caputo what do you think 1952 01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:46,489 of some of the claims that people who 1953 01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:49,489 have been helped by her have made and 1954 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:53,449 some of the controversy that has arisen 1955 01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:55,370 surrounding the show by skeptics James 1956 01:30:00,010 --> 01:29:57,110 Randi I think Placido is being a 1957 01:30:00,670 --> 01:30:00,020 charlatan etc there's been some magazine 1958 01:30:03,490 --> 01:30:00,680 articles 1959 01:30:05,260 --> 01:30:03,500 outed her as some sort of charlatan what 1960 01:30:08,110 --> 01:30:05,270 do you think about that I mean 2 million 1961 01:30:10,930 --> 01:30:08,120 people on average a week tune in to this 1962 01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:10,940 show it's very popular do you think that 1963 01:30:14,860 --> 01:30:12,560 there there are mediums that 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2089 01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:37,880 would be able to make as a personal 2090 01:35:43,029 --> 01:35:41,210 evaluation a meaningful for me I mean 2091 01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:43,039 James Randi calls all these people 2092 01:35:49,629 --> 01:35:47,570 frauds and fakes regardless of the 2093 01:35:51,939 --> 01:35:49,639 evidence that they are able to put 2094 01:35:54,580 --> 01:35:51,949 forward the pros and cons of the TV 2095 01:35:57,970 --> 01:35:54,590 shows are that even if you get a person 2096 01:36:00,910 --> 01:35:57,980 with legitimate talent the requirements 2097 01:36:02,379 --> 01:36:00,920 of TV for entertainment purposes are 2098 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:02,389 going to be that you know things are 2099 01:36:06,939 --> 01:36:03,650 going to have to be pumped up and 2100 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:06,949 embellished in some ways and well I 2101 01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:11,090 can't say that that does happen on that 2102 01:36:17,379 --> 01:36:13,489 show it happens on most of these 2103 01:36:19,330 --> 01:36:17,389 paranormal reality shows well yeah 2104 01:36:21,279 --> 01:36:19,340 that's a hazard I think people have to 2105 01:36:22,450 --> 01:36:21,289 take that into consideration but it 2106 01:36:25,359 --> 01:36:22,460 doesn't mean that she doesn't have 2107 01:36:27,700 --> 01:36:25,369 genuine ability I've never heard of a 2108 01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:27,710 medium or meta medium that's a hundred 2109 01:36:33,399 --> 01:36:30,110 percent anyway that's one hundred 2110 01:36:36,189 --> 01:36:33,409 percent accurate all the time and you 2111 01:36:39,850 --> 01:36:36,199 know many of them have who've tried to 2112 01:36:42,580 --> 01:36:39,860 be perfect they've they've really done 2113 01:36:44,890 --> 01:36:42,590 themselves a lot of harm because they 2114 01:36:48,250 --> 01:36:44,900 can't they can't become virtually 2115 01:36:50,919 --> 01:36:48,260 impossible well why have you avoided I'm 2116 01:36:53,709 --> 01:36:50,929 sure many kind of fishing expeditions by 2117 01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:53,719 the media to have you and you know as 2118 01:36:59,169 --> 01:36:56,570 the subject of a show I'm sure you've 2119 01:37:02,319 --> 01:36:59,179 been approached by Hollywood to do 2120 01:37:06,310 --> 01:37:02,329 rosemary i ellen guiley presents or have 2121 01:37:08,709 --> 01:37:06,320 some show based around your work what do 2122 01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:08,719 you what do you think about the 2123 01:37:12,490 --> 01:37:10,730 treatment of these subjects in Hollywood 2124 01:37:13,910 --> 01:37:12,500 and and how have you responded to 2125 01:37:15,620 --> 01:37:13,920 requests 2126 01:37:17,900 --> 01:37:15,630 you know to have you as the star of a 2127 01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:17,910 show there are some things that I'm very 2128 01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:20,730 happy to do for TV and other things that 2129 01:37:28,209 --> 01:37:24,960 I'm not and I've turned down some shows 2130 01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:28,219 that you know want evidence to be 2131 01:37:33,380 --> 01:37:31,050 embellished or I mean let's face it even 2132 01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:33,390 fabricated sometimes I've seen cases of 2133 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:35,690 just out-and-out fabrication of evidence 2134 01:37:43,070 --> 01:37:41,210 the trend has been very discouraging for 2135 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:43,080 participating in a lot of these shows 2136 01:37:51,110 --> 01:37:47,610 and I was on one we did the filming for 2137 01:37:54,050 --> 01:37:51,120 it two three years ago before finally 2138 01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:54,060 made its way to the States and will not 2139 01:37:59,979 --> 01:37:56,610 name the show by name but they totally 2140 01:38:02,000 --> 01:37:59,989 fabricated one of my significant 2141 01:38:05,090 --> 01:38:02,010 experiences that they interviewed me 2142 01:38:07,850 --> 01:38:05,100 about it and completely ignored all of 2143 01:38:09,620 --> 01:38:07,860 my research and conclusions and comments 2144 01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:09,630 on the phenomenon that they wanted to 2145 01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:13,170 portray and totally fabricated my 2146 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:15,449 experience that they portrayed on 2147 01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:19,050 television and I was absolutely furious 2148 01:38:24,530 --> 01:38:22,650 when I saw it and it's this sort of 2149 01:38:26,450 --> 01:38:24,540 thing that makes you just not want to 2150 01:38:29,150 --> 01:38:26,460 participate in that medium all together 2151 01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:29,160 but that's the unfortunate trend on 2152 01:38:33,860 --> 01:38:30,810 these shows and there are just way too 2153 01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:33,870 many people who are willing to to 2154 01:38:39,740 --> 01:38:35,730 participate because they think it's 2155 01:38:43,130 --> 01:38:39,750 going to make them famous careful what 2156 01:38:46,010 --> 01:38:43,140 you wish for yes I I can definitely 2157 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:46,020 identify with with your experiences I've 2158 01:38:50,090 --> 01:38:48,570 been in the same position actually now 2159 01:38:51,580 --> 01:38:50,100 three times that they've tried to 2160 01:38:55,070 --> 01:38:51,590 approach me to do my own show and I've 2161 01:38:58,669 --> 01:38:55,080 you know I've I very quickly found out 2162 01:39:01,100 --> 01:38:58,679 that they didn't get it and you know in 2163 01:39:03,380 --> 01:39:01,110 the case of my San Luis Valley research 2164 01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:03,390 and investigations I've always thought 2165 01:39:07,130 --> 01:39:05,520 that the place was the star not me 2166 01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:07,140 I'm just facilitating more knowledge 2167 01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:10,110 about a wonderful location and unless 2168 01:39:16,220 --> 01:39:14,489 you go 180 degrees to the idea that the 2169 01:39:18,770 --> 01:39:16,230 place is a star and that the people are 2170 01:39:21,350 --> 01:39:18,780 supplementing the place then if they 2171 01:39:23,300 --> 01:39:21,360 don't get that then they don't get me so 2172 01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:23,310 I can appreciate where you're coming 2173 01:39:26,780 --> 01:39:25,920 with that this show ancient aliens is is 2174 01:39:44,510 --> 01:39:26,790 a 2175 01:39:46,490 --> 01:39:44,520 in the in the right direction well let's 2176 01:39:49,010 --> 01:39:46,500 let's move in a little different 2177 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:49,020 direction here today and continue on 2178 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:50,850 with some listener questions I we've got 2179 01:39:54,110 --> 01:39:52,410 a bunch and we've asked some already 2180 01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:54,120 you've answered some that have yet to be 2181 01:39:59,510 --> 01:39:56,370 asked but here's an interesting one this 2182 01:40:03,740 --> 01:39:59,520 is kind of a conundrum in my mind and 2183 01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:03,750 tectum majid who is a long-time poster 2184 01:40:10,180 --> 01:40:06,170 at pear cast at the pear cast forums 2185 01:40:13,700 --> 01:40:10,190 asked how do ghosts and reincarnation 2186 01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:13,710 coexist if both are real what are ghosts 2187 01:40:17,630 --> 01:40:14,970 are they spirits that haven't moved 2188 01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:17,640 moved on to be reincarnated where do you 2189 01:40:20,480 --> 01:40:19,170 come down with reincarnation first of 2190 01:40:23,690 --> 01:40:20,490 all and then how do ghosts and 2191 01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:23,700 reincarnation coexist I do believe in 2192 01:40:28,910 --> 01:40:26,880 reincarnation and I have since a very 2193 01:40:32,270 --> 01:40:28,920 young age it's the only explanation that 2194 01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:32,280 makes sense to me I I can't accept the 2195 01:40:37,490 --> 01:40:35,010 idea of an eternal afterlife you know 2196 01:40:39,140 --> 01:40:37,500 you're a blip on the cosmic landscape in 2197 01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:39,150 a physical life and then you spend 2198 01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:42,330 eternity in in one one state it makes 2199 01:40:47,300 --> 01:40:45,330 absolutely no sense actually you you 2200 01:40:49,970 --> 01:40:47,310 don't reconcile ghosts and reincarnation 2201 01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:49,980 at least not in my view because ghosts 2202 01:40:54,440 --> 01:40:52,170 are residues there's I've come to the 2203 01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:54,450 conclusion after hundreds and hundreds 2204 01:40:59,000 --> 01:40:57,210 of paranormal investigations that what 2205 01:41:02,780 --> 01:40:59,010 we what most people call ghosts are 2206 01:41:05,480 --> 01:41:02,790 simply imprints there's there's not an 2207 01:41:08,030 --> 01:41:05,490 intelligence to them there's not a soul 2208 01:41:10,210 --> 01:41:08,040 aspect they're imprints left behind by 2209 01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:10,220 the living they're energy patterns and 2210 01:41:15,980 --> 01:41:13,410 they're repetitive they're for the most 2211 01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:15,990 part non interactive and they fade away 2212 01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:19,290 over time so I think that that's what we 2213 01:41:25,580 --> 01:41:22,890 call it ghosts there are people who get 2214 01:41:29,180 --> 01:41:25,590 stuck for a while who are earthbound 2215 01:41:31,130 --> 01:41:29,190 either by choice or accident but I think 2216 01:41:34,580 --> 01:41:31,140 that they eventually find their way into 2217 01:41:37,190 --> 01:41:34,590 the afterlife so the evidence for the 2218 01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:37,200 afterlife comes through people's 2219 01:41:42,260 --> 01:41:40,410 recollections through spontaneous recall 2220 01:41:45,860 --> 01:41:42,270 those are the most dramatic cases 2221 01:41:48,590 --> 01:41:45,870 especially among children and speaking 2222 01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:48,600 of television shows one of them that is 2223 01:41:53,300 --> 01:41:50,010 quite interesting is called the ghost 2224 01:41:54,710 --> 01:41:53,310 inside my child very badly named because 2225 01:41:56,570 --> 01:41:54,720 it has nothing to do with ghosts it's 2226 01:41:59,420 --> 01:41:56,580 about children who have very profound 2227 01:42:02,860 --> 01:41:59,430 and detailed memories of past lives that 2228 01:42:05,330 --> 01:42:02,870 are then historically authenticated and 2229 01:42:07,850 --> 01:42:05,340 that's really the best evidence in 2230 01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:07,860 support of reincarnation and then to a 2231 01:42:12,440 --> 01:42:10,560 certain extent past life regression the 2232 01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:12,450 hazards there is here in an altered 2233 01:42:20,570 --> 01:42:17,250 state and how much of your regression is 2234 01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:20,580 affected by you know things that can 2235 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:24,210 creep in and contaminate that but 2236 01:42:29,300 --> 01:42:26,610 nonetheless people do have some some 2237 01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:29,310 very dramatic past life regressions that 2238 01:42:35,110 --> 01:42:31,920 explain a lot of things to them in the 2239 01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:35,120 present and even heal a lot of things 2240 01:42:40,100 --> 01:42:38,010 yes fast question here which kind of 2241 01:42:41,950 --> 01:42:40,110 relates to some of this and that is you 2242 01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:41,960 know we have all these reports of 2243 01:42:47,630 --> 01:42:44,610 accurate predictions of offense and 2244 01:42:51,020 --> 01:42:47,640 stuff like that is there any possibility 2245 01:42:53,480 --> 01:42:51,030 here of selective memories which is 99 2246 01:42:56,210 --> 01:42:53,490 times out of 100 we get it wrong but 2247 01:43:01,370 --> 01:42:56,220 when we get it right we think about that 2248 01:43:03,890 --> 01:43:01,380 and forget the wrong guesses you mean in 2249 01:43:07,130 --> 01:43:03,900 terms of precognitive dreams anything 2250 01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:07,140 that may have a factual basis oh well 2251 01:43:12,890 --> 01:43:10,530 selective memory yes that's actually a 2252 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:12,900 question that's been raised by pair of 2253 01:43:19,390 --> 01:43:15,770 psychologists and especially in light of 2254 01:43:22,130 --> 01:43:19,400 past life memories that the whole 2255 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:22,140 repressed memory sort of thing I believe 2256 01:43:27,410 --> 01:43:24,690 Lawrence leshan examined that and in 2257 01:43:30,350 --> 01:43:27,420 some of his books and he cited an 2258 01:43:32,630 --> 01:43:30,360 example where he felt that he had had a 2259 01:43:37,340 --> 01:43:32,640 past life and in a certain period of 2260 01:43:40,460 --> 01:43:37,350 time and you know then he wondered you 2261 01:43:42,740 --> 01:43:40,470 know it had had things that he'd seen on 2262 01:43:45,950 --> 01:43:42,750 television or read even at a young age 2263 01:43:48,590 --> 01:43:45,960 and forgotten 2264 01:43:51,740 --> 01:43:48,600 could that have comprised what he felt 2265 01:43:53,780 --> 01:43:51,750 was you know a connection to a past life 2266 01:43:55,310 --> 01:43:53,790 so weak 2267 01:43:59,630 --> 01:43:55,320 selectively forget and we can 2268 01:44:03,410 --> 01:43:59,640 selectively remember and it all gets to 2269 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:03,420 be very murky in many cases you have a 2270 01:44:07,010 --> 01:44:05,250 follow-up on that Gino you all may take 2271 01:44:10,580 --> 01:44:07,020 it no I'm gonna go with that for right 2272 01:44:14,030 --> 01:44:10,590 now go ahead okay well we have some more 2273 01:44:17,540 --> 01:44:14,040 questions and I think some of them are 2274 01:44:19,580 --> 01:44:17,550 pretty interesting what do you think of 2275 01:44:22,460 --> 01:44:19,590 the recent announcement by the Pope no I 2276 01:44:24,890 --> 01:44:22,470 haven't read the article or seen the 2277 01:44:27,260 --> 01:44:24,900 actual quotes but correct me if I'm 2278 01:44:32,300 --> 01:44:27,270 wrong but didn't it's pope francis now 2279 01:44:33,950 --> 01:44:32,310 correct I believe so did you say 2280 01:44:36,380 --> 01:44:33,960 something last week something to the 2281 01:44:38,780 --> 01:44:36,390 effect of that hell was a construct made 2282 01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:38,790 up by the by the Roman Catholic Church 2283 01:44:44,090 --> 01:44:40,650 who do you recall seeing anything about 2284 01:44:45,530 --> 01:44:44,100 that I have not seen that the Pope 2285 01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:45,540 certainly has been making some 2286 01:44:50,750 --> 01:44:48,480 interesting statements and actually I 2287 01:44:53,570 --> 01:44:50,760 find it very refreshing because I think 2288 01:44:56,860 --> 01:44:53,580 we really do need to get away from this 2289 01:44:59,630 --> 01:44:56,870 idea that the afterlife is a static 2290 01:45:03,970 --> 01:44:59,640 eternal place of either pleasure or pain 2291 01:45:07,790 --> 01:45:03,980 or if you're an unbaptized baby limbo 2292 01:45:09,530 --> 01:45:07,800 yes as always my favorite is the week I 2293 01:45:12,020 --> 01:45:09,540 tell you what right now we're gonna be 2294 01:45:14,030 --> 01:45:12,030 in limbo if we don't do this break 2295 01:45:16,450 --> 01:45:14,040 rosemary ellen guiley joining Gina and 2296 01:45:23,610 --> 01:45:16,460 Chris you like that huh 2297 01:45:28,350 --> 01:45:26,030 [Music] 2298 01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:28,360 not just an alternative to the 2299 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:30,960 mainstream media we're the premier 2300 01:45:38,490 --> 01:45:34,690 independent talk radio network we are G 2301 01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:38,500 C end hi this is Ted Anderson if you'd 2302 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:40,480 like to listen to GCN programs on the 2303 01:45:43,950 --> 01:45:41,890 goal I have great news 2304 01:45:46,170 --> 01:45:43,960 gzn has created a Droid and iPhone 2305 01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:46,180 application and it's free just as easy 2306 01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:48,490 as going to GC and live.com click on the 2307 01:45:51,810 --> 01:45:50,410 banner and download before you know it 2308 01:45:53,820 --> 01:45:51,820 you'll be listening to your favorite 2309 01:45:55,620 --> 01:45:53,830 hard-hitting 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01:46:21,130 public currency is a greater menace to 2324 01:46:23,970 --> 01:46:22,240 the liberties of the people than a 2325 01:46:25,410 --> 01:46:23,980 standing army hi Ted Anderson I'm 2326 01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:25,420 placing a free silver dollar in a book 2327 01:46:30,750 --> 01:46:27,250 that explains our monetary system call 2328 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:30,760 for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time 2329 01:46:43,980 --> 01:46:33,970 to understand the system call 866 to 237 2330 01:46:46,110 --> 01:46:43,990 that's 800 686 to 237 in the u.s. one in 2331 01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:46,120 every 50 homes will have a break-in this 2332 01:46:50,130 --> 01:46:47,130 year 2333 01:46:51,390 --> 01:46:50,140 burglars call it smash and grab police 2334 01:46:55,500 --> 01:46:51,400 call it robbery 2335 01:46:57,870 --> 01:46:55,510 we call it avoidable we are fake TV a 2336 01:47:00,450 --> 01:46:57,880 simple electronic device that can fool 2337 01:47:02,700 --> 01:47:00,460 even professional burglars fake TV 2338 01:47:04,350 --> 01:47:02,710 easily plugs into any outlet and 2339 01:47:06,900 --> 01:47:04,360 simulates the changing colors of a 2340 01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:06,910 television to a burglar it looks like 2341 01:47:10,950 --> 01:47:09,250 someone must be home watching TV so 2342 01:47:15,540 --> 01:47:10,960 they'll likely move on to an easier 2343 01:47:17,190 --> 01:47:15,550 target at only 29.95 fake TV costs less 2344 01:47:19,830 --> 01:47:17,200 than a month of most alarm monitoring 2345 01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:19,840 plans and comes with free shipping order 2346 01:47:27,390 --> 01:47:24,490 your fake TV by calling 877 5 fake TV or 2347 01:47:29,820 --> 01:47:27,400 go to fete tv.com that's eight seven 2348 01:47:30,430 --> 01:47:29,830 seven five three two five three eight 2349 01:47:34,420 --> 01:47:30,440 eight 2350 01:47:43,949 --> 01:47:34,430 or fate tv.com fake TV the burglar 2351 01:47:51,989 --> 01:47:47,679 welcome back into the para cast the gold 2352 01:48:00,609 --> 01:47:51,999 standard of paranormal radio and now 2353 01:48:02,979 --> 01:48:00,619 here's Jane Steinberg gee can I set you 2354 01:48:05,169 --> 01:48:02,989 up good with that one you sure did 2355 01:48:08,350 --> 01:48:05,179 you know I didn't even write that for 2356 01:48:13,689 --> 01:48:08,360 you it just came out of thin air you 2357 01:48:16,209 --> 01:48:13,699 divined the need these are as rosemary 2358 01:48:17,969 --> 01:48:16,219 stated in the past at the end of the 2359 01:48:19,149 --> 01:48:17,979 last segment that these are static 2360 01:48:22,750 --> 01:48:19,159 conditions 2361 01:48:25,689 --> 01:48:22,760 static places and techno-magic has 2362 01:48:27,310 --> 01:48:25,699 another question that addresses that 2363 01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:27,320 very topic and says can a Christian 2364 01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:29,090 heaven slash hell coexist with 2365 01:48:35,169 --> 01:48:31,489 reincarnation without contradiction and 2366 01:48:36,909 --> 01:48:35,179 I guess the short answer would be no no 2367 01:48:40,750 --> 01:48:36,919 because in in the concepts of 2368 01:48:44,109 --> 01:48:40,760 reincarnation things are fluid and you 2369 01:48:45,549 --> 01:48:44,119 progress through incarnations you know 2370 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:45,559 they're differing views and even 2371 01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:48,530 testimonies from from the dead on this 2372 01:48:56,229 --> 01:48:52,010 sort of thing as to how much choice we 2373 01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:56,239 have in an incarnation but time spent in 2374 01:49:02,049 --> 01:48:58,880 the afterlife is spent in preparation 2375 01:49:05,699 --> 01:49:02,059 for another incarnation so you wouldn't 2376 01:49:09,489 --> 01:49:05,709 be stuck in an eternal heaven or hell in 2377 01:49:13,209 --> 01:49:09,499 it's always seemed to me that this 2378 01:49:17,979 --> 01:49:13,219 scenario of the afterlife was just used 2379 01:49:20,500 --> 01:49:17,989 as a club to to get people in line and 2380 01:49:23,169 --> 01:49:20,510 total control control mechanism 2381 01:49:24,819 --> 01:49:23,179 exactly you know obey the authority of 2382 01:49:27,100 --> 01:49:24,829 the church because if there was such a 2383 01:49:31,140 --> 01:49:27,110 thing as reincarnation and second 2384 01:49:33,489 --> 01:49:31,150 chances and redemption in that way 2385 01:49:36,839 --> 01:49:33,499 versus all through the church then who 2386 01:49:40,089 --> 01:49:36,849 needs the church more people are having 2387 01:49:43,149 --> 01:49:40,099 spiritual experiences that are 2388 01:49:45,629 --> 01:49:43,159 demonstrating these other scenarios that 2389 01:49:48,009 --> 01:49:45,639 in fact there may be many possibilities 2390 01:49:49,870 --> 01:49:48,019 and getting back to our earlier 2391 01:49:52,089 --> 01:49:49,880 discussion about you know what do people 2392 01:49:55,989 --> 01:49:52,099 experience in the afterlife isn't like 2393 01:49:56,650 --> 01:49:55,999 the you know self-catered experience to 2394 01:49:59,530 --> 01:49:56,660 a certain extent 2395 01:50:02,080 --> 01:49:59,540 and I think yes it initially it's going 2396 01:50:04,510 --> 01:50:02,090 to meet your expectations or perhaps 2397 01:50:07,300 --> 01:50:04,520 even your fears and we have NDEs where 2398 01:50:09,130 --> 01:50:07,310 people feel that they've glimpsed a hell 2399 01:50:13,290 --> 01:50:09,140 that they're afraid they're going to go 2400 01:50:15,580 --> 01:50:13,300 into for a fundamentalist Christian 2401 01:50:18,580 --> 01:50:15,590 their initial experience of the 2402 01:50:20,260 --> 01:50:18,590 afterlife might conform to that that 2403 01:50:22,420 --> 01:50:20,270 they're going to be you know greeted by 2404 01:50:24,750 --> 01:50:22,430 angels in Jesus and sit at the right 2405 01:50:30,670 --> 01:50:24,760 hand of God and prepare themselves for 2406 01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:30,680 an eternity of unending but static you 2407 01:50:35,740 --> 01:50:32,930 know peace and happiness 2408 01:50:39,010 --> 01:50:35,750 my own belief is that it that that might 2409 01:50:41,770 --> 01:50:39,020 be the initial experience but then that 2410 01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:41,780 gives way to a bigger picture of the 2411 01:50:48,690 --> 01:50:44,800 afterlife and and the soul moves into 2412 01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:48,700 another state of being an awareness yeah 2413 01:50:53,020 --> 01:50:50,930 do you want to follow up on that Jean 2414 01:50:54,820 --> 01:50:53,030 I've got other questions here some 2415 01:50:56,620 --> 01:50:54,830 people say you're in the para cast 2416 01:50:59,710 --> 01:50:56,630 others say you're in the question groove 2417 01:51:02,170 --> 01:50:59,720 Chris well this comes from one of our 2418 01:51:03,190 --> 01:51:02,180 recent signups at forum doctor para cast 2419 01:51:06,820 --> 01:51:03,200 com 2420 01:51:10,060 --> 01:51:06,830 her name is Constance and she also 2421 01:51:12,130 --> 01:51:10,070 helped edit my book so this is fun to 2422 01:51:14,590 --> 01:51:12,140 read a question from from Jean down in 2423 01:51:16,060 --> 01:51:14,600 Florida just several questions that's 2424 01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:16,070 taken one at a time 2425 01:51:19,870 --> 01:51:18,290 have you experienced rosemary or do you 2426 01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:19,880 know of others who have experienced 2427 01:51:23,860 --> 01:51:22,130 being suddenly awakened from a deep 2428 01:51:26,380 --> 01:51:23,870 sleep by hearing the voice of a 2429 01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:26,390 well-known dis in Carmen discarnate 2430 01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:29,690 nearby in the room with you like 2431 01:51:34,210 --> 01:51:32,000 actually being awakened by the sound of 2432 01:51:37,450 --> 01:51:34,220 a voice in the room for instance I think 2433 01:51:40,270 --> 01:51:37,460 she's that's what she's getting out yes 2434 01:51:42,250 --> 01:51:40,280 it's called direct voice dreaming and I 2435 01:51:45,250 --> 01:51:42,260 have written about it and one or more of 2436 01:51:47,020 --> 01:51:45,260 my dream books where people are awakened 2437 01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:47,030 from sleep and it's like a big voice 2438 01:51:56,170 --> 01:51:50,690 booming literally in the air around them 2439 01:52:00,010 --> 01:51:56,180 and these are often part of transition 2440 01:52:01,780 --> 01:52:00,020 dreams they often occur to people when 2441 01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:01,790 they're going through major life changes 2442 01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:05,210 and they're at a crossroads some big 2443 01:52:10,370 --> 01:52:08,210 things are about to happen and the voice 2444 01:52:11,810 --> 01:52:10,380 of authority well as 2445 01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:11,820 well that's how they describe it it's 2446 01:52:19,480 --> 01:52:13,410 like a voice of authority or the voice 2447 01:52:21,950 --> 01:52:19,490 of God even do that go with it baby 2448 01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:21,960 exactly that's exactly it it's often 2449 01:52:26,810 --> 01:52:25,170 predictive in nature well I'm off the 2450 01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:26,820 top of my head I'm not aware of any 2451 01:52:32,450 --> 01:52:30,090 cases where the voice is identified with 2452 01:52:34,670 --> 01:52:32,460 a well known dead person people usually 2453 01:52:38,660 --> 01:52:34,680 describe it as like the voice of God or 2454 01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:38,670 big authority voice I remember one case 2455 01:52:44,660 --> 01:52:41,850 I I described in one of my dream books a 2456 01:52:47,870 --> 01:52:44,670 woman who was leading a very which she 2457 01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:47,880 felt was a very comfortable life and she 2458 01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:50,250 had this this direct voice dream where 2459 01:52:58,310 --> 01:52:55,290 the voice and told her that you will 2460 01:53:00,800 --> 01:52:58,320 move people will die and it was 2461 01:53:03,590 --> 01:53:00,810 something to that effect and within 2462 01:53:05,690 --> 01:53:03,600 months her whole life had changed you 2463 01:53:07,430 --> 01:53:05,700 know she was divorced people around her 2464 01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:07,440 who were good friends or family members 2465 01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:10,880 had died she moved she changed careers 2466 01:53:16,700 --> 01:53:13,650 and she felt that somehow this this 2467 01:53:19,190 --> 01:53:16,710 voice had prepared her in some way even 2468 01:53:21,770 --> 01:53:19,200 though initially she didn't know what to 2469 01:53:23,300 --> 01:53:21,780 think of it but I guess the short answer 2470 01:53:27,230 --> 01:53:23,310 the question is yes these kinds of 2471 01:53:29,780 --> 01:53:27,240 dreams do occur okay well here's one I'm 2472 01:53:32,750 --> 01:53:29,790 wondering if Constance has had these 2473 01:53:35,900 --> 01:53:32,760 things happen to her and because of the 2474 01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:35,910 way she's asking the questions the 2475 01:53:40,190 --> 01:53:37,770 second one is have you experienced a 2476 01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:40,200 sense while awake of the presence of a 2477 01:53:44,690 --> 01:53:42,080 beloved issen Carnot's consciousness 2478 01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:44,700 occupying the space adjacent to your own 2479 01:53:52,850 --> 01:53:47,520 consciousness and experiencing that 2480 01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:52,860 individual's emotional state that's 2481 01:53:56,990 --> 01:53:55,410 described quite a bit in what's called 2482 01:54:00,680 --> 01:53:57,000 the after death communications 2483 01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:00,690 literature and well one of the first 2484 01:54:05,810 --> 01:54:03,210 books that was a big hit in that regard 2485 01:54:08,270 --> 01:54:05,820 was hello from heaven by Bill and Judy 2486 01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:08,280 Guggenheim and there have been other 2487 01:54:12,980 --> 01:54:11,010 books since then that described the 2488 01:54:17,570 --> 01:54:12,990 contact experiences that people have 2489 01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:17,580 with the dead and in many times people 2490 01:54:22,130 --> 01:54:19,920 will describe being in waking 2491 01:54:24,020 --> 01:54:22,140 consciousness and then suddenly feeling 2492 01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:24,030 the presence of 2493 01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:26,010 someone that they can identify the 2494 01:54:34,090 --> 01:54:28,890 person who's who they can't see but they 2495 01:54:38,630 --> 01:54:34,100 feel it very palpably often next to them 2496 01:54:41,900 --> 01:54:38,640 and the presence may just last a few 2497 01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:41,910 seconds there may be some sort of 2498 01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:44,850 telepathic communication or maybe just a 2499 01:54:54,590 --> 01:54:48,930 sense of a presence and that's described 2500 01:54:56,510 --> 01:54:54,600 quite a bit yeah I may have even had 2501 01:54:59,360 --> 01:54:56,520 something like that happened to me once 2502 01:55:04,270 --> 01:54:59,370 or twice but I think back in college 2503 01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:04,280 that may have been due to other factors 2504 01:55:12,350 --> 01:55:08,370 possibly of what I had implied 2505 01:55:14,570 --> 01:55:12,360 here's constants this last question and 2506 01:55:16,580 --> 01:55:14,580 I think it may be coming from a personal 2507 01:55:18,860 --> 01:55:16,590 experience but I'm not sure have you 2508 01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:18,870 rosemary experienced or know of anyone 2509 01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:22,170 else who has experienced a rapid sudden 2510 01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:24,330 upsurge of powerful energy within your 2511 01:55:29,900 --> 01:55:26,970 body that you sensed or knew was being 2512 01:55:32,630 --> 01:55:29,910 produced by a beloved Disqus incarnate 2513 01:55:34,910 --> 01:55:32,640 and it was powerful enough to cause a 2514 01:55:37,310 --> 01:55:34,920 strong physical reaction in your body 2515 01:55:39,170 --> 01:55:37,320 for example throwing your arms upward 2516 01:55:41,390 --> 01:55:39,180 the energy apparently exiting at your 2517 01:55:43,850 --> 01:55:41,400 fingertips followed by trembling in your 2518 01:55:46,820 --> 01:55:43,860 arms and upper body lasting for 10 or 15 2519 01:55:48,980 --> 01:55:46,830 minutes sounds like Constance has had a 2520 01:55:50,690 --> 01:55:48,990 couple of interesting experiences now 2521 01:55:54,290 --> 01:55:50,700 have you ever heard of this kind of 2522 01:55:57,190 --> 01:55:54,300 actual real physical manipulation of the 2523 01:56:00,410 --> 01:55:57,200 of the receiver of this type of energy 2524 01:56:03,050 --> 01:56:00,420 it sounds like she's describing a kind 2525 01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:03,060 of Kundalini rising you know sudden 2526 01:56:10,970 --> 01:56:07,530 bursts of Kundalini energy and I I've 2527 01:56:14,030 --> 01:56:10,980 not had that experience myself but many 2528 01:56:16,700 --> 01:56:14,040 people who describe feeling the sudden 2529 01:56:18,350 --> 01:56:16,710 presence of someone who's passed on and 2530 01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:18,360 yes I have had that experience myself 2531 01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:21,840 where it's like oh so-and-so is here and 2532 01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:24,890 you know you you can feel their presence 2533 01:56:32,030 --> 01:56:27,330 near you 2534 01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:32,040 they do I describe sensory phenomena 2535 01:56:37,580 --> 01:56:34,530 like a tingling of the skin a buzzing 2536 01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:37,590 maybe in the ears a rush of energy 2537 01:56:43,370 --> 01:56:40,290 I haven't encountered anything quite as 2538 01:56:46,250 --> 01:56:43,380 dramatic as what she's described but it 2539 01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:46,260 could very well be that if your 2540 01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:48,330 discarnate and you're in another form of 2541 01:56:55,490 --> 01:56:52,110 energy that could definitely affect your 2542 01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:55,500 own energy field yeah I think a lot of 2543 01:57:02,270 --> 01:56:57,770 it would depend upon the sensitivity of 2544 01:57:06,350 --> 01:57:02,280 the living the book is called dream 2545 01:57:09,439 --> 01:57:06,360 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questions misconceptions what 2643 02:02:05,970 --> 02:02:01,630 misconceptions do you find that people 2644 02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:05,980 have about afterlife related matter well 2645 02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:09,370 for me and I have to look at this from 2646 02:02:17,220 --> 02:02:12,490 my own perspective since I have you know 2647 02:02:19,890 --> 02:02:17,230 a very expanded view of the afterlife if 2648 02:02:23,250 --> 02:02:19,900 people think the afterlife is a place of 2649 02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:23,260 reward or punishment I think that's a 2650 02:02:28,970 --> 02:02:25,450 misconception and that's been 2651 02:02:33,780 --> 02:02:28,980 perpetrated upon us for centuries via 2652 02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:33,790 via religion and I think that would be 2653 02:02:39,630 --> 02:02:35,650 the biggest one I'm not sure quite sure 2654 02:02:41,310 --> 02:02:39,640 where to go on that one Jean I think 2655 02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:41,320 it's a question of maybe answering 2656 02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:43,930 listeners questions concerns about such 2657 02:02:49,380 --> 02:02:46,570 things because obviously our picture of 2658 02:02:51,390 --> 02:02:49,390 the afterlife is so much framed by what 2659 02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:51,400 we see on TV and in the movies I think 2660 02:02:56,250 --> 02:02:53,770 for example of the TV show being human 2661 02:02:58,320 --> 02:02:56,260 it's last season in the USA version 2662 02:03:01,650 --> 02:02:58,330 where you have one character who is a 2663 02:03:04,370 --> 02:03:01,660 ghost and we see her waiting for that 2664 02:03:07,670 --> 02:03:04,380 door she's kind of existing in this 2665 02:03:10,020 --> 02:03:07,680 stage where those with supernatural 2666 02:03:13,650 --> 02:03:10,030 capabilities the werewolf and the 2667 02:03:15,510 --> 02:03:13,660 vampire can see her but nobody else can 2668 02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:15,520 and she interacts with them but 2669 02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:17,530 apparently she's waiting for that 2670 02:03:24,870 --> 02:03:20,850 entrance to her reward whatever that is 2671 02:03:27,180 --> 02:03:24,880 the door symbolism and in that TV series 2672 02:03:31,230 --> 02:03:27,190 which which I do like I really enjoy it 2673 02:03:33,660 --> 02:03:31,240 is interesting because when people 2674 02:03:36,060 --> 02:03:33,670 become earthbound sometimes they stay 2675 02:03:37,890 --> 02:03:36,070 because they've got unfinished business 2676 02:03:40,430 --> 02:03:37,900 that they don't want to let go of or 2677 02:03:43,500 --> 02:03:40,440 they're looking for revenge or something 2678 02:03:45,420 --> 02:03:43,510 that's compelling them to stay sometimes 2679 02:03:48,930 --> 02:03:45,430 they're lost and confused if they've had 2680 02:03:51,450 --> 02:03:48,940 a sudden death but the mediums that that 2681 02:03:51,959 --> 02:03:51,460 I've worked with in spirit release men 2682 02:03:56,790 --> 02:03:51,969 when 2683 02:04:00,209 --> 02:03:56,800 a attempt to to help a soul across there 2684 02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:00,219 is a symbol that usually appears from 2685 02:04:05,270 --> 02:04:02,650 the mediums perspective about the point 2686 02:04:09,330 --> 02:04:05,280 of transition and it's often a bridge 2687 02:04:13,620 --> 02:04:09,340 but sometimes it's a doorway and the 2688 02:04:16,290 --> 02:04:13,630 process is usually one of communicating 2689 02:04:19,459 --> 02:04:16,300 with the the earthbound person and 2690 02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:19,469 finding out what their issues are and 2691 02:04:24,390 --> 02:04:21,610 persuading them that it's time to move 2692 02:04:27,509 --> 02:04:24,400 on and then helping them find that point 2693 02:04:29,700 --> 02:04:27,519 of transition and also the greeting 2694 02:04:32,399 --> 02:04:29,710 party on the other side and that seems 2695 02:04:36,509 --> 02:04:32,409 to be very important to that somebody 2696 02:04:38,879 --> 02:04:36,519 that they know even an animal is waiting 2697 02:04:40,770 --> 02:04:38,889 on the other side to help them make it 2698 02:04:44,279 --> 02:04:40,780 across but the the doorway does have 2699 02:04:46,290 --> 02:04:44,289 some basis in the spiritual reality now 2700 02:04:49,529 --> 02:04:46,300 the TV series being human at sin the 2701 02:04:51,899 --> 02:04:49,539 last season on the Syfy network the 2702 02:04:54,390 --> 02:04:51,909 ghost character the character's name is 2703 02:04:57,209 --> 02:04:54,400 Sally she's the victim of a murders 2704 02:04:59,729 --> 02:04:57,219 where her boyfriend who happened to own 2705 02:05:01,469 --> 02:04:59,739 the house in which she haunts at least 2706 02:05:01,919 --> 02:05:01,479 part of the time threw her down the 2707 02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:01,929 stairs 2708 02:05:07,350 --> 02:05:04,210 that's the backstory of the character it 2709 02:05:10,229 --> 02:05:07,360 gets pretty crazy though like all good 2710 02:05:13,200 --> 02:05:10,239 TV shows that veers off into some very 2711 02:05:14,850 --> 02:05:13,210 creative ways the whole werewolf a 2712 02:05:18,089 --> 02:05:14,860 that's another problem for me is this 2713 02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:18,099 whole werewolf thing with these you know 2714 02:05:23,879 --> 02:05:21,010 bands of people running around owning 2715 02:05:28,770 --> 02:05:23,889 their wolf part and a lot of that gets 2716 02:05:30,779 --> 02:05:28,780 into pure fantasy I think well speaking 2717 02:05:33,810 --> 02:05:30,789 of animals here's another question from 2718 02:05:36,089 --> 02:05:33,820 techno-magic is the afterlife 2719 02:05:38,700 --> 02:05:36,099 rosemary only limited to humans and 2720 02:05:41,459 --> 02:05:38,710 sentient species or do animals like dogs 2721 02:05:43,879 --> 02:05:41,469 cats chimpanzees dolphins whales etc 2722 02:05:47,339 --> 02:05:43,889 also have an afterlife is there any 2723 02:05:49,830 --> 02:05:47,349 scientific data that can support any 2724 02:05:51,509 --> 02:05:49,840 sort of afterlife for animals and I will 2725 02:05:54,540 --> 02:05:51,519 be interested to hear your answer I 2726 02:05:57,209 --> 02:05:54,550 don't think we can rely on scientific 2727 02:06:00,600 --> 02:05:57,219 data I mean these are all subjective 2728 02:06:02,790 --> 02:06:00,610 experiences of course but I do believe 2729 02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:02,800 that animals have souls and that they go 2730 02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:06,530 to an afterlife too and people will have 2731 02:06:12,170 --> 02:06:10,110 after of post death reunions with with 2732 02:06:14,060 --> 02:06:12,180 their pets as well and very dramatic 2733 02:06:18,620 --> 02:06:14,070 ways yeah that's actually fairly common 2734 02:06:21,950 --> 02:06:18,630 it is and I do have a chapter on animals 2735 02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:21,960 in my book they are equally powerful for 2736 02:06:27,110 --> 02:06:23,610 people because we are so connected to 2737 02:06:30,020 --> 02:06:27,120 our pets I'd like to mention one very 2738 02:06:32,750 --> 02:06:30,030 odd experience that was documented in 2739 02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:32,760 the psychical research literature in the 2740 02:06:38,390 --> 02:06:35,010 early 20th century and it happened to a 2741 02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:38,400 man in England and he had a hunting dog 2742 02:06:48,410 --> 02:06:43,770 named Bob and one night he had a very 2743 02:06:50,450 --> 02:06:48,420 vivid dream that Bob was drowning and 2744 02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:50,460 was calling out to him for help and it 2745 02:06:53,900 --> 02:06:51,690 seemed like this animal could 2746 02:06:56,510 --> 02:06:53,910 communicate with him and was asking him 2747 02:06:59,660 --> 02:06:56,520 for help it was drowning and it was so 2748 02:07:01,730 --> 02:06:59,670 real that it it shook him awake and he 2749 02:07:03,140 --> 02:07:01,740 was really upset by it so he shared it 2750 02:07:05,780 --> 02:07:03,150 with his family the next day they all 2751 02:07:08,150 --> 02:07:05,790 kind of laughed it off well Bob went 2752 02:07:11,420 --> 02:07:08,160 missing that day Bob didn't come around 2753 02:07:16,460 --> 02:07:11,430 for his meals and so a search went out 2754 02:07:18,980 --> 02:07:16,470 for him and the dog's carcass was found 2755 02:07:22,250 --> 02:07:18,990 in a river by two railroad workers the 2756 02:07:25,010 --> 02:07:22,260 poor dog had been hit by a train 2757 02:07:30,380 --> 02:07:25,020 flung off and - and flung off into the 2758 02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:30,390 river a vet claimed that probably the 2759 02:07:35,810 --> 02:07:33,210 impact should have killed the dog 2760 02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:35,820 instantly but the man could not get it 2761 02:07:41,420 --> 02:07:38,610 out of his head that hit that at the and 2762 02:07:43,190 --> 02:07:41,430 then the dog you know he'd had the dream 2763 02:07:46,790 --> 02:07:43,200 on the night of the dog's death that 2764 02:07:49,430 --> 02:07:46,800 that Bob drowned and that in his final 2765 02:07:52,550 --> 02:07:49,440 moments was calling out to him for help 2766 02:07:56,900 --> 02:07:52,560 and he said I'm not sure why I had this 2767 02:07:58,370 --> 02:07:56,910 dream I like Bob you know I thought he 2768 02:08:00,350 --> 02:07:58,380 was a wonderful dog it wasn't my 2769 02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:00,360 favorite dog he was really my daughter's 2770 02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:04,770 dog but I really think that for reasons 2771 02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:06,960 we don't understand Bob called out to me 2772 02:08:14,030 --> 02:08:09,930 in his last moments of life and that was 2773 02:08:17,060 --> 02:08:14,040 researched by psychical researchers so 2774 02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:17,070 much interesting about pets and one 2775 02:08:23,630 --> 02:08:19,770 person was mentioning to me that some 2776 02:08:26,030 --> 02:08:23,640 the pet chooses its master as much as 2777 02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:26,040 you choose the pet and the only way I'll 2778 02:08:31,700 --> 02:08:29,130 define that is our dog teddy bear is a 2779 02:08:35,120 --> 02:08:31,710 Bichon he's a rescue he was taken in by 2780 02:08:38,450 --> 02:08:35,130 an organization called Bichon for kids 2781 02:08:40,070 --> 02:08:38,460 fu are the situs Bichon for kids come if 2782 02:08:42,910 --> 02:08:40,080 you want to check him out and maybe even 2783 02:08:46,700 --> 02:08:42,920 get your own pet and we had to literally 2784 02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:46,710 apply for the privilege of adopting him 2785 02:08:52,130 --> 02:08:50,130 and supposedly they prepped him however 2786 02:08:54,680 --> 02:08:52,140 they prep him for this and we went when 2787 02:08:57,290 --> 02:08:54,690 we met him and we drove from Phoenix to 2788 02:08:59,810 --> 02:08:57,300 San Diego to pick him up he was all 2789 02:09:03,740 --> 02:08:59,820 primed and ready for us he was on his 2790 02:09:06,530 --> 02:09:03,750 best behavior he was happy he was ready 2791 02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:06,540 for us and I started thinking at that 2792 02:09:11,090 --> 02:09:08,130 point as we took him home you know what 2793 02:09:13,190 --> 02:09:11,100 did we really choose this guy or is he 2794 02:09:17,450 --> 02:09:13,200 just waiting for us to find him it 2795 02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:17,460 probably was a little bit about a little 2796 02:09:21,500 --> 02:09:19,890 bit about both there are so many cases 2797 02:09:23,390 --> 02:09:21,510 where people feel their pets have 2798 02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:23,400 reincarnated and come back to be with 2799 02:09:27,410 --> 02:09:23,970 them 2800 02:09:30,230 --> 02:09:27,420 alright that's interesting we have any 2801 02:09:32,330 --> 02:09:30,240 sort of anecdotal information on that 2802 02:09:34,550 --> 02:09:32,340 we're in that regard I asked to be a 2803 02:09:37,700 --> 02:09:34,560 quick anecdote we have 45 seconds for 2804 02:09:39,020 --> 02:09:37,710 the segment but you can start oftentimes 2805 02:09:40,790 --> 02:09:39,030 the animal will have the same 2806 02:09:43,160 --> 02:09:40,800 characteristics 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bells being sung by the 2934 02:15:17,150 --> 02:15:15,260 in fact chris is the guy did the voices 2935 02:15:20,090 --> 02:15:17,160 know he was silent even think Chris was 2936 02:15:21,950 --> 02:15:20,100 born when they had that rose mary ellen 2937 02:15:24,500 --> 02:15:21,960 guiley joining us we have questions from 2938 02:15:26,620 --> 02:15:24,510 listeners a couple of segments left have 2939 02:15:29,120 --> 02:15:26,630 we gone through all of them yet Chris 2940 02:15:30,770 --> 02:15:29,130 there's still a few left but but here's 2941 02:15:34,010 --> 02:15:30,780 one rosemary I've got to ask this we 2942 02:15:37,310 --> 02:15:34,020 have as you know our our listening 2943 02:15:41,450 --> 02:15:37,320 audience runs the gamut from you know 2944 02:15:44,090 --> 02:15:41,460 credentialed scientist engineers you 2945 02:15:47,300 --> 02:15:44,100 know ex-military and a lot of them are 2946 02:15:52,340 --> 02:15:47,310 highly skeptical of of research that 2947 02:15:54,410 --> 02:15:52,350 relies on mostly anecdotal reports I'm 2948 02:15:56,620 --> 02:15:54,420 sure over the course of the many years 2949 02:15:59,240 --> 02:15:56,630 that you've written 50 plus books nine 2950 02:16:01,010 --> 02:15:59,250 encyclopedias you get that that person 2951 02:16:03,290 --> 02:16:01,020 that comes up to you and says rosemary 2952 02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:03,300 you know you've done all this work and 2953 02:16:08,930 --> 02:16:05,970 everything how can i suspend my 2954 02:16:12,310 --> 02:16:08,940 scientific disbelief and buy into any of 2955 02:16:15,170 --> 02:16:12,320 this you know your past appearances 2956 02:16:18,070 --> 02:16:15,180 related to the jinn for instance have 2957 02:16:22,220 --> 02:16:18,080 sparked some real pointed debate over 2958 02:16:25,160 --> 02:16:22,230 the validity of some of you know your 2959 02:16:28,220 --> 02:16:25,170 conclusions that you've come up with how 2960 02:16:30,740 --> 02:16:28,230 do you reconcile some of these highly 2961 02:16:32,840 --> 02:16:30,750 skeptical people coming to you and 2962 02:16:35,170 --> 02:16:32,850 saying well there is no proof for any of 2963 02:16:39,020 --> 02:16:35,180 this that this is all just entertainment 2964 02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:39,030 how would you direct somebody in the 2965 02:16:44,930 --> 02:16:42,290 direction of changing their very static 2966 02:16:49,370 --> 02:16:44,940 Imperia what to call the empirical view 2967 02:16:52,280 --> 02:16:49,380 of these things I mean how can you take 2968 02:16:54,820 --> 02:16:52,290 a hard-boiled skeptic and get them to 2969 02:16:57,350 --> 02:16:54,830 open up to the possibilities of the many 2970 02:17:01,060 --> 02:16:57,360 things not only dreams and the Djinn and 2971 02:17:03,620 --> 02:17:01,070 other you know elementals and other 2972 02:17:05,660 --> 02:17:03,630 subjects that you cover how do you get 2973 02:17:10,130 --> 02:17:05,670 them to open up to the possibility that 2974 02:17:13,010 --> 02:17:10,140 your research is valid these are some 2975 02:17:15,980 --> 02:17:13,020 pretty sticky questions that anyone in 2976 02:17:17,960 --> 02:17:15,990 metaphysics or the paranormal comes up 2977 02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:17,970 against time and time again and 2978 02:17:22,340 --> 02:17:20,250 certainly there have been many learned 2979 02:17:24,910 --> 02:17:22,350 people over the at least the past 2980 02:17:29,240 --> 02:17:24,920 century or two that have attempted to 2981 02:17:31,970 --> 02:17:29,250 apply science to these areas and they 2982 02:17:34,490 --> 02:17:31,980 often come up wanting as anyone knows 2983 02:17:36,410 --> 02:17:34,500 from a study of the literature we've got 2984 02:17:39,910 --> 02:17:36,420 some very convincing statistical 2985 02:17:42,560 --> 02:17:39,920 analyses of ESP and SCI and PK and 2986 02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:42,570 beyond that it all starts to fall apart 2987 02:17:48,220 --> 02:17:45,090 scientifically because you're dealing 2988 02:17:51,050 --> 02:17:48,230 with these subjective experiences and 2989 02:17:52,370 --> 02:17:51,060 here's the orientation on my work and 2990 02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:52,380 I'm very upfront about it 2991 02:17:57,530 --> 02:17:55,050 I'm an experiencer and I have been from 2992 02:18:00,200 --> 02:17:57,540 a very early age so for me these 2993 02:18:03,080 --> 02:18:00,210 realities have been present they've been 2994 02:18:05,480 --> 02:18:03,090 part of my ordinary reality so to speak 2995 02:18:09,550 --> 02:18:05,490 and I do not doubt that they exist 2996 02:18:11,870 --> 02:18:09,560 most people come into inquiries and 2997 02:18:15,140 --> 02:18:11,880 explorations of these subjects from 2998 02:18:18,860 --> 02:18:15,150 their own personal experiences the 2999 02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:18,870 experience doesn't seem these are what 3000 02:18:24,830 --> 02:18:22,170 should I say their experiences happen to 3001 02:18:29,390 --> 02:18:24,840 the open-minded and to the skeptical 3002 02:18:32,090 --> 02:18:29,400 alike and sometimes for people who want 3003 02:18:34,580 --> 02:18:32,100 to consider only science they can really 3004 02:18:36,770 --> 02:18:34,590 shake up a worldview when people have 3005 02:18:40,910 --> 02:18:36,780 some sort of experience that they can't 3006 02:18:43,520 --> 02:18:40,920 fit into their particular paradigm and 3007 02:18:47,060 --> 02:18:43,530 so what do we do with these experiences 3008 02:18:49,820 --> 02:18:47,070 well we can either dismiss them because 3009 02:18:52,970 --> 02:18:49,830 they don't fit science in which case we 3010 02:18:55,910 --> 02:18:52,980 shut ourselves off from whatever they 3011 02:18:58,280 --> 02:18:55,920 have to teach us or we can embrace them 3012 02:19:01,610 --> 02:18:58,290 and integrate them and try and figure 3013 02:19:03,940 --> 02:19:01,620 them out as to their meaning years ago 3014 02:19:07,459 --> 02:19:03,950 when I was much more involved in 3015 02:19:09,950 --> 02:19:07,469 parapsychology I met Rael white who's 3016 02:19:11,870 --> 02:19:09,960 passed on now she's in the afterlife but 3017 02:19:14,480 --> 02:19:11,880 she edited the Journal of the American 3018 02:19:17,060 --> 02:19:14,490 Society for psychical research for a 3019 02:19:19,070 --> 02:19:17,070 number of years and she also coined the 3020 02:19:21,469 --> 02:19:19,080 term exceptional human experience 3021 02:19:24,830 --> 02:19:21,479 because it became very apparent to her 3022 02:19:27,139 --> 02:19:24,840 that we can we can pile up thousands of 3023 02:19:30,290 --> 02:19:27,149 statistics trying to demonstrate whether 3024 02:19:31,940 --> 02:19:30,300 ESP exists and what does that do for us 3025 02:19:34,099 --> 02:19:31,950 it doesn't really help us in the long 3026 02:19:36,709 --> 02:19:34,109 run grapple with our personal 3027 02:19:39,799 --> 02:19:36,719 experiences and she said there really 3028 02:19:45,349 --> 02:19:39,809 ought to be a way in this discipline for 3029 02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:45,359 some applied approach to be pursued to 3030 02:19:51,830 --> 02:19:48,960 to help explain these spirit experiences 3031 02:19:53,750 --> 02:19:51,840 within the context of living she founded 3032 02:19:55,610 --> 02:19:53,760 this magazine called exceptional human 3033 02:19:59,360 --> 02:19:55,620 experience for people to talk about 3034 02:20:02,510 --> 02:19:59,370 things like mystical experiences 3035 02:20:05,719 --> 02:20:02,520 paranormal experiences dreams near-death 3036 02:20:08,210 --> 02:20:05,729 the whole gamut and unfortunately this 3037 02:20:11,060 --> 02:20:08,220 this is an idea I always felt that had a 3038 02:20:13,790 --> 02:20:11,070 lot of merit and it certainly supported 3039 02:20:17,630 --> 02:20:13,800 my own view and unfortunately it still 3040 02:20:21,110 --> 02:20:17,640 has no place in a scientific paradigm so 3041 02:20:24,410 --> 02:20:21,120 we're left with these worlds and very 3042 02:20:26,750 --> 02:20:24,420 slim bridges between them if any bridges 3043 02:20:29,260 --> 02:20:26,760 at all from from some perspectives I've 3044 02:20:32,719 --> 02:20:29,270 been told by scientists I went to a 3045 02:20:35,570 --> 02:20:32,729 international conference on 3046 02:20:37,700 --> 02:20:35,580 consciousness once and attempted to talk 3047 02:20:39,830 --> 02:20:37,710 to scientists about this and I was told 3048 02:20:42,020 --> 02:20:39,840 point blank that it was all all in the 3049 02:20:45,530 --> 02:20:42,030 head it was all fantasy there was 3050 02:20:48,380 --> 02:20:45,540 nothing to it and I've never been able 3051 02:20:50,719 --> 02:20:48,390 to accept that viewpoint not only from 3052 02:20:53,870 --> 02:20:50,729 my own experiences but from my study of 3053 02:20:56,060 --> 02:20:53,880 the history of human experiences so the 3054 02:20:58,760 --> 02:20:56,070 focus of my work really is Orion 3055 02:21:01,280 --> 02:20:58,770 oriented toward the how and why that we 3056 02:21:02,740 --> 02:21:01,290 have these experiences clearly human 3057 02:21:05,510 --> 02:21:02,750 beings have been having extraordinary 3058 02:21:08,060 --> 02:21:05,520 experiences throughout history and they 3059 02:21:10,610 --> 02:21:08,070 fall into certain patterns that are very 3060 02:21:13,790 --> 02:21:10,620 consistent regardless of how we explain 3061 02:21:15,020 --> 02:21:13,800 them according to our the age of history 3062 02:21:17,660 --> 02:21:15,030 and the culture 3063 02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:17,670 context and whatnot there are similar 3064 02:21:24,200 --> 02:21:20,610 core elements to them so why are we 3065 02:21:27,110 --> 02:21:24,210 having these experiences and we have 3066 02:21:29,930 --> 02:21:27,120 throughout history attempted to 3067 02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:29,940 integrate them with meaning into our 3068 02:21:35,510 --> 02:21:33,330 lives and into our explanations of where 3069 02:21:39,350 --> 02:21:35,520 we fit into the cosmic scheme of things 3070 02:21:40,970 --> 02:21:39,360 so I have made the judgment the 3071 02:21:43,190 --> 02:21:40,980 conclusion that these are important 3072 02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:43,200 experiences they have a numinous quality 3073 02:21:50,150 --> 02:21:47,010 to them that is significant to the soul 3074 02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:50,160 and into life's journey so my work is 3075 02:21:58,130 --> 02:21:54,560 really about what are these experiences 3076 02:22:01,040 --> 02:21:58,140 how are we having them how are our 3077 02:22:04,420 --> 02:22:01,050 present experiences put into context 3078 02:22:07,610 --> 02:22:04,430 with experiences of our ancestors and 3079 02:22:09,560 --> 02:22:07,620 what can we possibly derive a benefit 3080 02:22:12,620 --> 02:22:09,570 from these experiences how do we 3081 02:22:17,060 --> 02:22:12,630 integrate them and how are we making 3082 02:22:20,090 --> 02:22:17,070 sense of them and deriving some personal 3083 02:22:22,970 --> 02:22:20,100 and collective value from them and of 3084 02:22:26,540 --> 02:22:22,980 course once again all of this really 3085 02:22:30,050 --> 02:22:26,550 falls outside of science so what I would 3086 02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:30,060 have to say to the scientists is that I 3087 02:22:34,580 --> 02:22:32,850 hope at some point these don't don't be 3088 02:22:36,410 --> 02:22:34,590 too close-minded at least keep an open 3089 02:22:38,810 --> 02:22:36,420 mind yeah I mean that's at the very 3090 02:22:40,970 --> 02:22:38,820 least that well we'll have some 3091 02:22:44,060 --> 02:22:40,980 mechanism for for bridging these gaps 3092 02:22:46,460 --> 02:22:44,070 and maybe there will be changes in our 3093 02:22:48,560 --> 02:22:46,470 scientific understanding of reality that 3094 02:22:50,780 --> 02:22:48,570 will will help us get there I I think 3095 02:22:54,650 --> 02:22:50,790 the whole concept of the multiverse and 3096 02:22:57,080 --> 02:22:54,660 parallel dimensions certainly offers 3097 02:22:59,360 --> 02:22:57,090 some avenues in that regard well I think 3098 02:23:00,110 --> 02:22:59,370 you know again you have to keep an open 3099 02:23:02,960 --> 02:23:00,120 mind 3100 02:23:06,050 --> 02:23:02,970 to the extent that you you can't close 3101 02:23:07,460 --> 02:23:06,060 yourself off from possibility and I 3102 02:23:09,530 --> 02:23:07,470 think you're a perfect example of 3103 02:23:11,930 --> 02:23:09,540 somebody who has really taken that extra 3104 02:23:14,450 --> 02:23:11,940 step forward and and looked for the 3105 02:23:16,640 --> 02:23:14,460 patterns look for the commonalities down 3106 02:23:20,180 --> 02:23:16,650 through history and that's where I feel 3107 02:23:22,580 --> 02:23:20,190 your work has has very great value for 3108 02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:22,590 someone who is more skeptically inclined 3109 02:23:27,200 --> 02:23:24,960 as well if that's the case why do we see 3110 02:23:28,120 --> 02:23:27,210 these types of things recording over and 3111 02:23:30,250 --> 02:23:28,130 over again in 3112 02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:30,260 history and you can almost categorize 3113 02:23:35,620 --> 02:23:32,530 them and you can see patterns and 3114 02:23:37,540 --> 02:23:35,630 obviously you know the the time period 3115 02:23:39,400 --> 02:23:37,550 went in which somebody is living is 3116 02:23:42,030 --> 02:23:39,410 going to dictate some of the details but 3117 02:23:46,330 --> 02:23:42,040 we're seeing you know very similar 3118 02:23:48,130 --> 02:23:46,340 categorically of experience type effects 3119 02:23:51,310 --> 02:23:48,140 through history and I think that's an 3120 02:23:52,540 --> 02:23:51,320 important fact well let's get back you 3121 02:23:55,090 --> 02:23:52,550 know we don't have much time here I do 3122 02:23:57,610 --> 02:23:55,100 have a few questions left but there's 3123 02:24:00,340 --> 02:23:57,620 one I think that brings us back to the 3124 02:24:02,650 --> 02:24:00,350 whole idea of dreaming and this comes 3125 02:24:05,050 --> 02:24:02,660 from Wade Ridsdale who is a longtime 3126 02:24:08,980 --> 02:24:05,060 poster at forum dr. Peric ask.com 3127 02:24:11,800 --> 02:24:08,990 he's rapidly approaching the 2500 post 3128 02:24:14,380 --> 02:24:11,810 Club I'll tell you what let's hold off 3129 02:24:14,860 --> 02:24:14,390 on Wade's question okay to our next 3130 02:24:17,500 --> 02:24:14,870 segment 3131 02:24:19,510 --> 02:24:17,510 Wade I'm sorry about that okay man we 3132 02:24:25,540 --> 02:24:19,520 have rosemary ellen guiley joining Gina 3133 02:24:28,090 --> 02:24:25,550 and Chris you're in the burkas the 3134 02:24:31,270 --> 02:24:28,100 nation's largest independently owned and 3135 02:24:36,219 --> 02:24:31,280 operated talk radio network the genesis 3136 02:24:37,000 --> 02:24:36,229 communications network G C n attack of 3137 02:24:38,920 --> 02:24:37,010 the rock ODEs 3138 02:24:40,690 --> 02:24:38,930 has been well received by critics and 3139 02:24:43,810 --> 02:24:40,700 readers alike it's a thrill a minute 3140 02:24:46,179 --> 02:24:43,820 story you'll never forget a former US 3141 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02:27:28,750 --> 02:27:25,100 historic lows you can't afford to wait 3211 02:27:30,820 --> 02:27:28,760 so call 866 91 steel plucking your price 3212 02:27:33,490 --> 02:27:30,830 now take delivery in spring eight six 3213 02:27:38,469 --> 02:27:33,500 six ninety one steel that's eight six 3214 02:27:40,389 --> 02:27:38,479 six nine one seven 83 35 hi I'm dr. Joel 3215 02:27:42,610 --> 02:27:40,399 Wallach the dead doctors don't lag I 3216 02:27:44,920 --> 02:27:42,620 there's no reason why you shouldn't live 3217 02:27:46,599 --> 02:27:44,930 to be at least 100 and have a great time 3218 02:27:48,340 --> 02:27:46,609 getting there and I'm going to give you 3219 02:27:50,349 --> 02:27:48,350 a free copy of my lecture that tells you 3220 02:27:52,040 --> 02:27:50,359 exactly how to do it in fact after 3221 02:27:53,570 --> 02:27:52,050 you've delivered a long and healthy 3222 02:27:55,490 --> 02:27:53,580 there should be only two documents in 3223 02:27:56,599 --> 02:27:55,500 your medical chart a birth certificate 3224 02:27:58,550 --> 02:27:56,609 and a death certificate 3225 02:28:00,860 --> 02:27:58,560 I'm dr. Wallach with a warning if you 3226 02:28:02,240 --> 02:28:00,870 have a four inch medical chart if you 3227 02:28:03,200 --> 02:28:02,250 take prescription drugs for high 3228 02:28:05,450 --> 02:28:03,210 cholesterol high blood pressure 3229 02:28:07,490 --> 02:28:05,460 arthritis joint pains and other health 3230 02:28:09,410 --> 02:28:07,500 issues the medical profession is failing 3231 02:28:11,450 --> 02:28:09,420 you they're using you for an ATM machine 3232 02:28:12,920 --> 02:28:11,460 my free lecture is going to reveal what 3233 02:28:14,420 --> 02:28:12,930 pharmaceutical companies don't want you 3234 02:28:16,250 --> 02:28:14,430 to know there's been groundbreaking 3235 02:28:18,679 --> 02:28:16,260 research and discoveries on how to 3236 02:28:20,480 --> 02:28:18,689 effectively treat or eliminate over 900 3237 02:28:23,780 --> 02:28:20,490 different diseases naturally it's all in 3238 02:28:31,639 --> 02:28:23,790 my free lecture called deadly recipe so 3239 02:28:35,540 --> 02:28:31,649 call toll-free 1-800 free one eight five 3240 02:28:54,260 --> 02:28:35,550 five 79 young one eight five five 79 3241 02:28:55,880 --> 02:28:54,270 young I know was a very patient man for 3242 02:28:58,280 --> 02:28:55,890 tolerating this break right at the 3243 02:29:02,660 --> 02:28:58,290 beginning of his question but here it is 3244 02:29:05,660 --> 02:29:02,670 Chris piece well first I got a comment 3245 02:29:08,660 --> 02:29:05,670 on his avatar of the Leprechaun doing 3246 02:29:10,940 --> 02:29:08,670 something quite obscene to the the 3247 02:29:12,740 --> 02:29:10,950 severed head of Steven Greer here I mean 3248 02:29:16,099 --> 02:29:12,750 dude you got to come up with a better 3249 02:29:19,010 --> 02:29:16,109 avatar than this this is really over the 3250 02:29:21,679 --> 02:29:19,020 top anyway getting back on on the 3251 02:29:24,320 --> 02:29:21,689 question here he says being that I'm a 3252 02:29:26,690 --> 02:29:24,330 mid-level lucid dreamer I'm not sure 3253 02:29:28,849 --> 02:29:26,700 what that means and I frequently 3254 02:29:32,270 --> 02:29:28,859 consciously interact with my dreams 3255 02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:32,280 editing them on the fly as it were if 3256 02:29:36,290 --> 02:29:34,050 such an occurrence would happen to me 3257 02:29:38,630 --> 02:29:36,300 how would I know yet 3258 02:29:42,500 --> 02:29:38,640 because I'm just as likely to create a 3259 02:29:45,320 --> 02:29:42,510 simulation of contact well that's 3260 02:29:48,469 --> 02:29:45,330 assuming that anything that you direct 3261 02:29:50,599 --> 02:29:48,479 an elusive dream is an artificial 3262 02:29:54,080 --> 02:29:50,609 construct that has no meaning 3263 02:29:57,889 --> 02:29:54,090 and I'm not a regular lucid dreamer 3264 02:29:59,990 --> 02:29:57,899 myself I know a lot of lucid dreamers 3265 02:30:03,080 --> 02:30:00,000 who we have dream lucid dreams almost 3266 02:30:05,069 --> 02:30:03,090 every night and of course I'm familiar 3267 02:30:07,349 --> 02:30:05,079 with a lot of the studies dawn listen 3268 02:30:10,529 --> 02:30:07,359 reaming and this this is a whole other 3269 02:30:11,849 --> 02:30:10,539 aspect of consciousness that we still 3270 02:30:14,599 --> 02:30:11,859 don't know a whole lot about this 3271 02:30:17,729 --> 02:30:14,609 ability to enter the dream state and 3272 02:30:19,889 --> 02:30:17,739 direct the dream and of course you know 3273 02:30:22,879 --> 02:30:19,899 the master of all was Robert Monroe who 3274 02:30:25,979 --> 02:30:22,889 learned how to do that usually in a 3275 02:30:28,260 --> 02:30:25,989 hypnagogic stages of sleep propelling 3276 02:30:31,979 --> 02:30:28,270 himself out of body and then having 3277 02:30:33,749 --> 02:30:31,989 these loosen experiences so why would we 3278 02:30:37,499 --> 02:30:33,759 make the assumption that anything that 3279 02:30:41,039 --> 02:30:37,509 we caused to happen in a lucid dream 3280 02:30:48,239 --> 02:30:41,049 state has any less reality than what we 3281 02:30:50,729 --> 02:30:48,249 do in waking life so to me I say the 3282 02:30:54,179 --> 02:30:50,739 dream these afterlife dream experiences 3283 02:30:56,010 --> 02:30:54,189 that have lucidity in them why would 3284 02:30:59,729 --> 02:30:56,020 they be any more real or less real than 3285 02:31:01,769 --> 02:30:59,739 a lucid dream well we know that the 3286 02:31:05,129 --> 02:31:01,779 dream isn't reality and that our reality 3287 02:31:07,199 --> 02:31:05,139 is the dream of course that well that 3288 02:31:12,059 --> 02:31:07,209 that's been a philosophical question 3289 02:31:15,389 --> 02:31:12,069 through the ages that we're not that 3290 02:31:17,099 --> 02:31:15,399 real life is the dream and we're having 3291 02:31:20,369 --> 02:31:17,109 different different levels of dreaming 3292 02:31:24,209 --> 02:31:20,379 so we have these different states of 3293 02:31:27,199 --> 02:31:24,219 consciousness and I don't think that we 3294 02:31:29,849 --> 02:31:27,209 can make the we can discriminate that 3295 02:31:35,249 --> 02:31:29,859 one is as real and has the little 3296 02:31:37,289 --> 02:31:35,259 validity and another does not yeah I've 3297 02:31:39,209 --> 02:31:37,299 all often wondered that sometimes my 3298 02:31:42,809 --> 02:31:39,219 life seems like a dream and sometimes my 3299 02:31:45,779 --> 02:31:42,819 dreams seem more real but that's a whole 3300 02:31:47,760 --> 02:31:45,789 nother show okay here's a good one this 3301 02:31:50,189 --> 02:31:47,770 is another question from poll tourists 3302 02:31:53,069 --> 02:31:50,199 who is again a longtime poster at forum 3303 02:31:55,409 --> 02:31:53,079 dr. Peric ask.com for all you new 3304 02:31:57,359 --> 02:31:55,419 listeners out there join up get your 3305 02:31:59,669 --> 02:31:57,369 questions answered by our guests here at 3306 02:32:02,760 --> 02:31:59,679 the parrot caste Pope the worst asks 3307 02:32:05,059 --> 02:32:02,770 where is quote-unquote our consciousness 3308 02:32:10,619 --> 02:32:05,069 during dreamless sleep or anesthesia 3309 02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:10,629 good question it's I would have to 3310 02:32:15,779 --> 02:32:13,810 speculate on that one that it may be 3311 02:32:18,460 --> 02:32:15,789 out-of-body I think that whenever we 3312 02:32:23,580 --> 02:32:18,470 dream we go out of body 3313 02:32:26,410 --> 02:32:23,590 and that may happen during anesthesia 3314 02:32:31,360 --> 02:32:26,420 I'm not really certain about anesthesia 3315 02:32:35,320 --> 02:32:31,370 but in dreamless we do have stages where 3316 02:32:37,091 --> 02:32:35,330 we are in dreamless sleep but that could 3317 02:32:38,680 --> 02:32:37,101 still mean that our consciousness is out 3318 02:32:40,660 --> 02:32:38,690 doing something that we're just not 3319 02:32:45,551 --> 02:32:40,670 aware of nobody really knows the answer 3320 02:32:49,780 --> 02:32:45,561 to that okay I like the concept though 3321 02:32:52,900 --> 02:32:49,790 that our dreams are the reality and our 3322 02:32:54,970 --> 02:32:52,910 reality is a dream so how do we wake up 3323 02:32:59,400 --> 02:32:54,980 from this nightmare 3324 02:33:08,200 --> 02:33:03,310 well the question - is our reality just 3325 02:33:11,520 --> 02:33:08,210 a shared consciousness right or some 3326 02:33:15,011 --> 02:33:11,530 sort of software generating construct 3327 02:33:17,650 --> 02:33:15,021 also by the way had something here some 3328 02:33:19,841 --> 02:33:17,660 further discussion about the questions 3329 02:33:21,190 --> 02:33:19,851 for rosemary just posted in our forums I 3330 02:33:23,680 --> 02:33:21,200 don't think it's a question more than a 3331 02:33:25,420 --> 02:33:23,690 comment but just wanted to bring it to 3332 02:33:28,930 --> 02:33:25,430 Chris's attention we get these questions 3333 02:33:31,301 --> 02:33:28,940 up until the last possible second but 3334 02:33:34,591 --> 02:33:31,311 I'm serious here what do you think 3335 02:33:38,200 --> 02:33:34,601 rosemary how much of our reality is a 3336 02:33:40,600 --> 02:33:38,210 shared reality that we're all sharing 3337 02:33:44,950 --> 02:33:40,610 the same dream that we each contribute 3338 02:33:50,051 --> 02:33:44,960 to somehow I believe we we do live in a 3339 02:33:54,970 --> 02:33:50,061 consensus reality and that we are 3340 02:33:57,310 --> 02:33:54,980 constantly either reinforcing or even 3341 02:34:01,511 --> 02:33:57,320 inventing this consensus reality that 3342 02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:01,521 seems to function on a very remote level 3343 02:34:13,810 --> 02:34:09,131 what the mechanism behind that is I 3344 02:34:16,620 --> 02:34:13,820 can't even fathom but I do subscribe to 3345 02:34:19,140 --> 02:34:16,630 the view that there are many parallel 3346 02:34:22,660 --> 02:34:19,150 realities where versions of ourselves 3347 02:34:26,381 --> 02:34:22,670 exist in other ways doing other things 3348 02:34:30,580 --> 02:34:26,391 and that's a whole different consensus 3349 02:34:31,930 --> 02:34:30,590 reality well that seems to raise the 3350 02:34:33,870 --> 02:34:31,940 next question which is 3351 02:34:38,950 --> 02:34:33,880 if you know there is a consensus reality 3352 02:34:41,980 --> 02:34:38,960 can you change the consensus I believe 3353 02:34:45,400 --> 02:34:41,990 we have a very limited ability at 3354 02:34:48,490 --> 02:34:45,410 present to change the consensus reality 3355 02:34:51,540 --> 02:34:48,500 we might be able to alter our own 3356 02:34:54,131 --> 02:34:51,550 reality within certain parameters 3357 02:34:59,470 --> 02:34:54,141 however it would take a critical mass 3358 02:35:01,060 --> 02:34:59,480 factor to to alter consensus reality now 3359 02:35:04,420 --> 02:35:01,070 mystics have addressed this sri 3360 02:35:07,660 --> 02:35:04,430 aurobindo for example talked about this 3361 02:35:10,390 --> 02:35:07,670 you know superhuman that we were going 3362 02:35:15,250 --> 02:35:10,400 to evolve into but that it would require 3363 02:35:17,290 --> 02:35:15,260 a in in those terms not his terms but in 3364 02:35:19,990 --> 02:35:17,300 those terms a changing consensus reality 3365 02:35:24,400 --> 02:35:20,000 to get past the need for physical death 3366 02:35:25,990 --> 02:35:24,410 and he said that when we realized that 3367 02:35:29,280 --> 02:35:26,000 we didn't need to go through a physical 3368 02:35:32,230 --> 02:35:29,290 death that we could transform physically 3369 02:35:35,620 --> 02:35:32,240 we would we would have this mass 3370 02:35:37,900 --> 02:35:35,630 consciousness shift and go into another 3371 02:35:40,841 --> 02:35:37,910 level of being which some people would 3372 02:35:43,960 --> 02:35:40,851 call the light body sort of being but 3373 02:35:46,120 --> 02:35:43,970 the concho the consensus reality for 3374 02:35:48,970 --> 02:35:46,130 physical death is so deeply embedded in 3375 02:35:50,261 --> 02:35:48,980 our cellular structure that he said you 3376 02:35:53,080 --> 02:35:50,271 know it's very difficult to overcome 3377 02:35:55,631 --> 02:35:53,090 yeah that's a big hurdle it is and now 3378 02:36:00,610 --> 02:35:55,641 he did say you know that he was going to 3379 02:36:03,430 --> 02:36:00,620 come back from the dead himself I'm 3380 02:36:05,140 --> 02:36:03,440 still waiting for them to raise houdini 3381 02:36:07,330 --> 02:36:05,150 from the dead that didn't quite work out 3382 02:36:08,710 --> 02:36:07,340 so well that's what ninety years ago he 3383 02:36:11,410 --> 02:36:08,720 died well he said he was gonna 3384 02:36:15,190 --> 02:36:11,420 communicate on a specific day I think 3385 02:36:17,770 --> 02:36:15,200 though wasn't it rosemary yes every day 3386 02:36:20,470 --> 02:36:17,780 of year keep tuned in because I might be 3387 02:36:22,210 --> 02:36:20,480 there for anybody he must have dialed 3388 02:36:25,261 --> 02:36:22,220 the wrong he must have dialed the wrong 3389 02:36:36,881 --> 02:36:25,271 number that's our problem with Houdini 3390 02:36:41,080 --> 02:36:36,891 is that it may be disconnected reality 3391 02:36:42,900 --> 02:36:41,090 number has been disconnected no carrier 3392 02:36:45,100 --> 02:36:42,910 available yeah 3393 02:36:48,070 --> 02:36:45,110 rosemary what are you working on now 3394 02:36:51,670 --> 02:36:48,080 you're a busy girl I you're constantly 3395 02:36:53,020 --> 02:36:51,680 running around helping people going you 3396 02:36:55,750 --> 02:36:53,030 know spreading the word about these 3397 02:36:58,030 --> 02:36:55,760 wonderful subjects that that you know 3398 02:37:00,160 --> 02:36:58,040 are geared to open up us up to become 3399 02:37:01,810 --> 02:37:00,170 more open minded what what's on your 3400 02:37:04,810 --> 02:37:01,820 plate what are you looking forward to 3401 02:37:06,220 --> 02:37:04,820 working on I'm going to have several new 3402 02:37:07,690 --> 02:37:06,230 books out this year I'm working on 3403 02:37:10,870 --> 02:37:07,700 another gin book by the way but that 3404 02:37:15,070 --> 02:37:10,880 won't be out until next year the hot 3405 02:37:16,690 --> 02:37:15,080 spot book yes and that's that's gonna be 3406 02:37:20,890 --> 02:37:16,700 a big work because I've collected a lot 3407 02:37:23,440 --> 02:37:20,900 of material for that and I have a book 3408 02:37:26,020 --> 02:37:23,450 on black mears crying as a tool for 3409 02:37:30,070 --> 02:37:26,030 communicating with the dead that will be 3410 02:37:32,680 --> 02:37:30,080 out a book on haunted objects that I'm 3411 02:37:35,320 --> 02:37:32,690 doing with John Zaffis Bureau to get 3412 02:37:39,970 --> 02:37:35,330 attached to objects and create a lot of 3413 02:37:42,551 --> 02:37:39,980 havoc and a book on developing your 3414 02:37:44,140 --> 02:37:42,561 miracle mind consciousness which gets 3415 02:37:46,570 --> 02:37:44,150 into these areas in terms of how much 3416 02:37:48,570 --> 02:37:46,580 can we change a reality through the you 3417 02:37:51,940 --> 02:37:48,580 know the power of consciousness and 3418 02:37:55,841 --> 02:37:51,950 bring you know mark market remarkable 3419 02:37:56,980 --> 02:37:55,851 changes into daily life rosemary would 3420 02:37:59,500 --> 02:37:56,990 you tell our listeners where they can 3421 02:38:02,140 --> 02:37:59,510 find more of your stuff visionary living 3422 02:38:03,490 --> 02:38:02,150 calm and I have a library of articles 3423 02:38:07,091 --> 02:38:03,500 you can sign up for my newsletter 3424 02:38:10,030 --> 02:38:07,101 strange dimensions and my books are 3425 02:38:12,011 --> 02:38:10,040 there - I also have jinn universe calm 3426 02:38:15,640 --> 02:38:12,021 or people who want to get into that 3427 02:38:18,070 --> 02:38:15,650 aspect Chris O'Brien site is our strange 3428 02:38:21,011 --> 02:38:18,080 planet calm you can order a copy of 3429 02:38:23,470 --> 02:38:21,021 stalking the herd bear and he will 3430 02:38:24,370 --> 02:38:23,480 autograph it for you you won't tell us 3431 02:38:27,700 --> 02:38:24,380 with a champ 3432 02:38:30,400 --> 02:38:27,710 our sights the power cast calm you can 3433 02:38:33,310 --> 02:38:30,410 also check on Twitter we're known as the 3434 02:38:36,011 --> 02:38:33,320 para cast there are two official power 3435 02:38:38,410 --> 02:38:36,021 cast fan clubs on Facebook don't ask me 3436 02:38:41,011 --> 02:38:38,420 to explain why because maybe that's 3437 02:38:42,631 --> 02:38:41,021 shared consciousness as well 3438 02:38:53,460 --> 02:38:42,641 rosemary ellen guiley thanks for joining 3439 02:39:00,011 --> 02:38:56,980 the para cast featuring Jean Steinberg 3440 02:39:02,880 --> 02:39:00,021 and Christopher O'Brien is a 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